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To: poncho67

I find it interesting that the debate has now shifted from "the climate isn't changing there is no proof" to "the climate always changes and man isn't responsible".

I figure in about 12-18 months we will get "Humans are only causing a small fraction of the change, so there isn't much we can do".

Ultimately the right lets the left get to own this issue and loses big time as they implement wacky schemes to what is could easily be solved through obvious market mechanisms.

Insert head in sand. The consistently brilliant conservative strategy to having started out on the wrong side of an issue.


17 posted on 09/27/2006 7:29:43 AM PDT by Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit (War is Peace__Freedom is Slavery__Ignorance is Strength)
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To: Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit

"I find it interesting that the debate has now shifted from "the climate isn't changing there is no proof" to "the climate always changes and man isn't responsible".

Where exactly did you get that?? Do you just make up bogus arguments as you go? Hmmm, nevermind, that is SOP for you wacko lefties.


19 posted on 09/27/2006 7:35:46 AM PDT by poncho67
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To: Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit
Insert head in sand. The consistently brilliant conservative strategy to having started out on the wrong side of an issue.

Man caused global warming is religion, not science.
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23 posted on 09/27/2006 8:31:52 AM PDT by mugs99 (Don't take life too seriously, you won't get out alive.)
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To: Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit
"Insert head in sand. The consistently brilliant conservative strategy to having started out on the wrong side of an issue."

You miss the point. The climate ISN'T changing enough to make any difference, but proving that is just as impossible as proving that IT IS changing enough to make any difference. We simply cannot forecast what the climate will be like in 50 or 100 years with any accuracy.

During the 70's the predictions were that we were headed for a mini ice age, and that billions would have starved to death by the late 90's. That prediction was made by the same boneheads that are now predicting global warming.

What else can you say to idiots like these except 'shut up'?

Who cares if the globe is warming, it has done that before, and if it does it again, it will be great for food production, and if the sea levels rise, even under worst case scenarios, it will rise so slowly that people will adapt.

Fear mongering is not only silly, but wastes resources that could be better used elsewhere.

BTW what happened to the hole in the ozone layer? It's gone. Wasn't that going to kill us all?

So far environmentalists forecasts have been 100% wrong. It's not really their fault though, they are to stupid to understand just how profoundly stupid and unable to predict anything they are.
32 posted on 09/27/2006 9:38:08 AM PDT by monday
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To: Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit

If you don't like conservatives, then leave this freakin website. There is no law here that states that we have to be kind to liberals such as yourself.


40 posted on 09/27/2006 12:40:57 PM PDT by ohioman
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To: Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit
I find it interesting that the debate has now shifted from "the climate isn't changing there is no proof" to "the climate always changes and man isn't responsible".

That's not as bad as "Global warming!, No. Ice age!, No Global Warming!, No. Climate Change! Quick, give me lots of money and I will make it stop!."

43 posted on 09/27/2006 2:03:39 PM PDT by Dan Evans
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I'm sure that someone has challenged the data that there indeed is global warming. At the same time someone was saying that perhaps there is warming. Others have said that of course there is warming.

It's pretty simplistic, even straw-mannish, to say that each of these arguments has followed in a single-file line. Why would you set up a straw man?

48 posted on 09/27/2006 8:23:53 PM PDT by Chaguito
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