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More Troops - The consensus for a larger Army is about as complete as it could be.
Weekly Standard ^ | 10/02/2006 | Frederick W. Kagan & William Kristol

Posted on 09/25/2006 3:54:45 PM PDT by neverdem

You can hardly read a story about Iraq these days without seeing an Army or Marine officer say he doesn't have enough troops to accomplish his mission. Senior officers respond that this is what junior commanders always say. That's not quite true. Commanders in charge of secondary missions often ask for more resources than they need, not recognizing their missions are less vital. But the calls for more troops in Iraq come from soldiers training Iraqis, from soldiers trying to secure Baghdad, from soldiers in Anbar. If all of these are secondary missions, where's the main effort? The truth is there are not enough ground forces in Iraq, and military officers are finally saying so in public.

The administration could respond to this obvious fact by sending more troops. Rather than do that, some military and civilian leaders are spinning: There are no more troops to send, they say. In fact, some military leaders say we won't be able to sustain even the current levels--as CENTCOM commander General John Abizaid has said we must--without risking grave damage to the military.

To those who warn that Iraq is "breaking the Army," we would respond that losing in Iraq will increase the burden on the military over the coming decades rather than decreasing it. Nothing breaks a military like losing.

But there's an even more important point here. If it were, in fact, true that there is not a single additional soldier to send to Iraq, then the United States would be facing the gravest national security crisis since Pearl Harbor. For this would mean that there is not a single soldier available to be sent anywhere: Iran, North Korea, Somalia, Lebanon, or wherever the next crisis arises. It would mean that the president has no strategic options at all involving the use of ground forces. And this would be an open invitation to our enemies to take advantage of our weakness.

Now, the fact is that there are more troops available to be sent to Iraq. But we also are stretched too thin, and need a larger military. In a front-page article on September 22, the New York Times's Thom Shanker and Michael Gordon reported that "strains on the Army from the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan have become so severe that Army officials say they may be forced to make greater use of the National Guard to provide enough troops for overseas deployments." This prospect "presents the Bush administration with a politically vexing problem: how, without expanding the Army, to balance the pressing need for troops in the field against promises to limit overseas deployments for the Guard." Actually, this "vexing problem" has a solution: expanding the Army.

Analysts outside the government are increasingly in agreement: Researchers at conservative think tanks like the American Enterprise Institute and the Heritage Foundation call for larger ground forces, as do thinkers at centrist and liberal organizations like Brookings, CSIS, and even the Center for American Progress. The more modest recommendations call for increasing the Army, over the next few years, by 50,000 to 100,000 new troops from its current 500,000. We would urge an immediate expansion toward a 750,000-person Army. In any case, the consensus for a larger Army is about as complete as it could be. Except within the administration.

What's preoccupying the Defense Department, even the top brass at the Army like Army Chief of Staff General Peter Schoomaker, is the Future Combat System--the Army's major "transformational" weapons system. Schoomaker has said that he would even cut the number of soldiers in uniform to pay for the system. The key premise of this argument is that Iraq is a blip, and the strain on our ground forces a temporary problem, while the FCS will ensure the Army's superiority for decades to come. But the armed forces have been strained for almost a decade now. And is Iraq really a "blip"? Most of the wars in the last 15 years have led to protracted deployments (the first Iraq war, Bosnia, Kosovo, and Afghanistan, for example). Only Haiti and Somalia--two signal failures--allowed a rapid exit.

The military should not be forced to choose between modernization and manpower. Army and Marine Corps vehicles are more than 20 years old and burned out by years of hard use. They need to be replaced. The president keeps saying that we are a nation at war, but the military keeps having to make budget decisions as though we were at peace. If this trend continues, we could lose in Iraq and break the ground forces as well.

The strain on the soldiers and Marines must be eased. Recruiting and training takes time, of course, and many will argue that it is too late: We'll be out of Iraq before they take the field. That same argument was made in 2003, 2001, 1999, and 1997. If we'd started at any of those times to increase the size of the ground forces, new soldiers would be on the ground today where they are badly needed. How many times are we going to repeat this mistake? How long will it take this administration, properly committed to a robust foreign policy, to provide the tools needed to do the job?


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; US: District of Columbia; War on Terror
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The military should not be forced to choose between modernization and manpower. Army and Marine Corps vehicles are more than 20 years old and burned out by years of hard use. They need to be replaced. The president keeps saying that we are a nation at war, but the military keeps having to make budget decisions as though we were at peace. If this trend continues, we could lose in Iraq and break the ground forces as well.
1 posted on 09/25/2006 3:54:46 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem
I have long said that the Army needs 5 to 8 more combat brigades and the Marines need another 3 or 4.

But hey, my kids don't listen to me so why should the military :-)
2 posted on 09/25/2006 3:57:53 PM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: taxcontrol

There are enough.

Rumsfeld wants to prove, still, his plans to route soldier pay to lucrative, big and sometimes dodgy arms programs as the "better" defense.

He was a Star Wars lobbyist. Pre-9/11 Bush's foreign diplomacy was centered on enabling Star Wars without busting the ABM treaty. Now the Star Wars money is still flowing although it is only plans to intercept some hypothetical North Korean missile they might build a decade of so from now..


3 posted on 09/25/2006 4:09:34 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: neverdem

Hell, when you're getting shot at, there's never enough troops.


4 posted on 09/25/2006 4:26:53 PM PDT by caisson71
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To: neverdem
We need more troops. I am not an expert so I wont spew out a number but common sense will tell you that beyond Iraq we have increasing threats from countries like Iran, North Korea, horn of africa, Venezuela, a rising China, Syria etc. I believe we need to expand our defense strategy from fighting a war on two fronts to perhaps three or more fronts. With instability caused by islamo fascism and china/venezuela spreading like a wild fire through out the third world, a two front war strategy seems obsolete.
5 posted on 09/25/2006 4:40:34 PM PDT by spikeytx86 (Pray for Democrats for they have been brainwashed by there fruity little club.)
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To: Shermy

Not sure why you are being so dismissive.

North Korea missiles can reach us....

http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/asiapcf/east/02/12/us.nkorea/

There have been successful intercepts...

http://www.mda.mil/mdalink/html/nmdimg.html


6 posted on 09/25/2006 4:41:22 PM PDT by sgtyork (Prove to us that you can enforce the borders first.)
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To: neverdem

The administration will never do it. In order to expand the size of the military, and fund the extra hundred fifty billion or so it will take, the administration will either have to increase revenue, i.e. tax increase, or cut spending. It has not shown itself willing to do either.


7 posted on 09/25/2006 4:44:27 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Shermy
I disagree that there are enough. My sister is a personnel officer with one of the state Air National Guard units and she tells me of the intense burn out that is causing many to leave the service.

Granted there are enough to fight a 2 year war but the rotation strain is very high right now. 5 to 8 more Brigades would lengthen the "down time" from 10 to 12 months to something a little longer, perhaps as much as 18 months.
8 posted on 09/25/2006 4:51:43 PM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: neverdem

The bullship according to McCain.


9 posted on 09/25/2006 5:41:18 PM PDT by OldFriend (I Pledge Allegiance to the Flag.....and My Heart to the Soldier Who Protects It.)
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To: OldFriend
The bullship according to McCain.

"Researchers at conservative think tanks like the American Enterprise Institute and the Heritage Foundation call for larger ground forces,"

10 posted on 09/25/2006 5:56:17 PM PDT by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: neverdem
conservative think tanks

I don't ever believe in think tanks - anyone that sits around and thinks that much has something wrong with them - lol
11 posted on 09/25/2006 6:00:37 PM PDT by Core_Conservative (Proud to be "The self-righteous, gun-totin, military lovin, abortion-hatin, gay-loathin'...")
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To: All; neverdem


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12 posted on 09/25/2006 6:28:51 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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To: neverdem
BS. OK, take the Strykers. A vehicle field designed for this mission. This article totally ignores that fact. It also ignores the change to the Hummers, the current movement to replace the Hummers and the changes to the Abrams.

At over $500 billion a year we are spending MORE on the Military then at any time since the Reagan years.

Counter Insurgency is NOT Total War. The usual rice bowlers in the Pentagon, with the willing aid of the porkbarrelers in the political establishment, are using the war as an excuse to push for unlimited funding for every idea they can come up with. A really disgusting effort to use the troops as PR props for their partisan political ends. THAT is what this article is all about.

At it's height we had 500,000 troops in Vietnam. How did that work out for us?

Sending the right troops YES, sending just any troops simply marginalizes your local allies, retards development of effective Iraqi Security forces and provides many many many more targets for the Terrorists. It also polarizes the local political equation as your troops, instead of being Liberators, start to be seen as Occupiers by the bulk of Iraqis.

Conventional troops are not trained or structured for Counter Insurgency missions. Send massive forces into Iraq exponentially increases the cultural friction between average Iraqis and us. EVEN in WW2 between relatively culturally homogeneous British and Americans there was a great deal of friction. Imagine how much WORSE that friction would be in Iraq!

This article is a absolute recipe for snatching defeat from the jaws of victory in Iraq. This would turn Iraq into Afghanistan 2 with us filling the role of the Russians. A really, really dumb idea.

The US Army is currently slated to expand to 48 Combat Brigades by the end of 2007. Rather then a bunch of well meaning, but ignorant, political types trying to direct the military efforts; I suggest this time we leave running the military to the professionals.

13 posted on 09/25/2006 6:48:47 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Say Leftists. How many Nazis did killing Nazis in WW2 create? or Samurai? or Fascists?)
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To: neverdem
Researchers who know nothing at all about Counter Insurgency. The US won such an effort in El Salvador during the 1980s. What have these "researchers" done other then dream up ways to suck more tax payer money out of the system to as "grants"?
14 posted on 09/25/2006 6:50:25 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Say Leftists. How many Nazis did killing Nazis in WW2 create? or Samurai? or Fascists?)
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To: taxcontrol
Which is why the US Military is drawing down the Guard and Reserves and expanding to 48 Combat Brigades. Clinton wanted a cheap military so they switched far too much onto the Guards and Reserves. The President's team, with some help from Congress, is reversing that mistake.

That part of the reason the attack on Rummy. Too many pork barrels and bureaucrats are seeing their comfy little taxpayer funded nests disappearing.
15 posted on 09/25/2006 6:53:35 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Say Leftists. How many Nazis did killing Nazis in WW2 create? or Samurai? or Fascists?)
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To: MNJohnnie

I should point out that during the 1980's we had a significantly larger Army, Navy, and Air Force. We have made the necessary decision to expand Ground Forces. This needs be done. Schoomaker's halt for additional budget money is long overdue.

Be Seeing You,

Chris


16 posted on 09/25/2006 6:55:06 PM PDT by section9 (Major Motoko Kusanagi says, "Jesus is Coming. Everybody look busy...")
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To: Shermy
You have it 180 degrees backwards. The pork barrels want Rummy's scalp BECAUSE he will NOT play the game you accuse him off. He has scrapped a bunch of pork barrel boondoggles such as the new Attack helicopters, the Sea wolf Attack Subs and the Marines plan to reactivate battleships for fire support missions.

The whole reason, despite a record setting $500+ billion annual Defense Budget for all this hysteria is to get the American people, to shovel out for what every new way the Bureaucrats and the Congresscritters can dream up to waste the taxpayers money.

17 posted on 09/25/2006 6:58:13 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Say Leftists. How many Nazis did killing Nazis in WW2 create? or Samurai? or Fascists?)
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To: spikeytx86

Which is why the US Army will expand to 48 Combat Brigades by the end of 2007. Read here

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/ops/global-deployments.htm


18 posted on 09/25/2006 7:00:02 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Say Leftists. How many Nazis did killing Nazis in WW2 create? or Samurai? or Fascists?)
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To: MNJohnnie
Conventional troops are not trained or structured for Counter Insurgency missions. Send massive forces into Iraq exponentially increases the cultural friction between average Iraqis and us.

I'm pleasently surprised to hear you say that, Johnnie.

You're on the right track. If you think about it, our large conventional presence currently does the same thing, without the benefit of providing sufficient security. More ground troops may provide more security, but at an increased rate of cultural friction.

What we need is to take this endeavor out of the hands of the 'big Army' and put it under SOCOM. They understand counterinsurgency, and can do the job right, if given the chance. Our path to victory lies with fewer, but more culturally sensitive elite forces.

This article is a absolute recipe for snatching defeat from the jaws of victory in Iraq. This would turn Iraq into Afghanistan 2 with us filling the role of the Russians. A really, really dumb idea.

Oddly enough, Afghanistan itself is turning into Afghanistan 2. Iraq will just have to wait it's turn.

The US Army is currently slated to expand to 48 Combat Brigades by the end of 2007. Rather then a bunch of well meaning, but ignorant, political types trying to direct the military efforts; I suggest this time we leave running the military to the professionals.

The 'expansion' to 48 brigades is simply a reorg of the current division/brigade structure into a modern, smaller brigade unit. It's only an expansion on paper; the troop numbers won't increase. You can cut $1000 into four wads of cash, or five or six, but it's still $1000.

19 posted on 09/25/2006 7:00:18 PM PDT by Steel Wolf (As Ibn Warraq said, "There are moderate Muslims but there is no moderate Islam.")
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To: MNJohnnie

Fine, the researchers know nothing about Counter Insurgency. Neither do I. But as a mere observer, I'm willing to say that if we'd had 350K troops on the ground ASAP, it would've been over a year ago.

Frankly, I'm willing to bring back the draft.


20 posted on 09/25/2006 7:01:13 PM PDT by BikerJoe
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