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"The Black Sea event is the most likely source for the "global" flood story, but that event wasn't global. There's a lot of "creative storytelling" in this one."

I know that's been proposed, but it doesn't make sense. You don't need an ark for a black sea event. You simply herd your flocks out of the way. You don't get a year long flood out of the black sea either

"The only evidence for a global flood is the Bible, and I'm sorry to have to tell you the creationist geologists who were looking for the proof gave up about 1830."

They didn't give up, the prominent Scriptural geologists died off and noone rose to take their place. But the long earth geologists as the following link shows, were influenced heavily by their world views.

Some of the ideas that propelled long age geologists to prominence over scriptural geologists have been disproven. The debate over rapid stratification, polystrat trees and other things has shifted through the years.

"History is confirming that the Scriptural geologists were right. Lyell’s uniformitarianism was the ruling dogma of geology for almost 150 years until the late 1970s, when ‘neocatastrophism’ began to emerge, and with it came reinterpretations of the geological record.23 Lyell’s way of interpreting the rocks simply does not fit the facts and evidence of catastrophism at a global level is becoming increasingly obvious, even to many evolutionists."

The origin of old-earth geology and its ramifications for life in the 21st century

Implications of erosion rates for long ages

Sorry, son. You're seeing some natural events through a biblical spectrum which has been long since been bypassed.

The evidence is simply not there. No water canopy or other hokum will make it work. There is simply no evidence in a number of fields which would have to be be there if there was a global flood.

With that, good night all. Its late and I haven't shaved.

Probably anti-evolution Christians and anti-evolution Muslims have more in common than evolutionist Americans.

The "ruling dogma" for 16 centuries had to do with a "divine right of kings" as interpreted by one church. The USA, coming after the Reformation, threw off this Old World stuff of hierarchy and blind faith without real evidence. The Bible never mentions democracy or individual rights.

Evolution is grand unifying concept of nature, and includes natural law. Evolution deniers are like all those long forgotten on the wrong side of history.

the prominent Scriptural geologists died off and noone rose to take their place. But the long earth geologists ....Some of the ideas that propelled long age geologists to prominence over scriptural geologists have been disproven. The debate over rapid stratification, polystrat trees and other things has shifted through the years. "History is confirming that the Scriptural geologists were right. Lyell’s uniformitarianism was the ruling dogma of geology for almost 150 years until the late 1970s, when ‘neocatastrophism’ began to emerge, and with it came reinterpretations of the geological record.23

I imagine we can all agree on your point of view: "It is a wet bird that flies by night."

Some of us have curiosities about "polystrat trees". Are these in the woods where we go hiking?

Is "the ruling dogma of geology for almost 150 years" different from Catholic dogma for 1400 years?

Do you accept the Reformation? Is there a Protestant view of evolution that you agree with?