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To: oldfart
"They say that man always kills the things he loves. This is especially true with wilderness beauty. We always want to see and experience that beauty but when too many have seen and experienced, it is no longer beautiful."
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Say oldfellow, who is this "they" that say? Certainly not anyone who thinks.
To quote Nietzsche paraphrasing Zoroaster addressing the morning Sun from the entrance of his mountain cave...
"Thou Great Star! What would be thou Glory if thou had not those upon whom thou shiniest!"

In other words...

If the most beautiful Jewel on Earth was laying unseen in the dark of the deepest ocean, it would have no beauty. The giver of beauty is only found in the eyes of man.

Some of the Park people and some of the Cave Research people seem to like caves and wilderness more than they like mankind. How stupid.
33 posted on 09/24/2006 6:35:17 PM PDT by the final gentleman
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To: the final gentleman

"Some of the Park people and some of the Cave Research people seem to like caves and wilderness more than they like mankind. How stupid."

Stupid? Perhaps... and perhaps not. Time will tell. I know many people I would not consider capable of discerning beauty, whose only measure of worth is whether or not money can be made from it. I enjoy the things I can get with money just as much as anyone but I know of things and places that are priceless. Just like the people of CRF, I will never tell anyone of them.
Sights such as this cave contains are available for anyone to find and enjoy. Unfortunately, few will ever do so. Instead, they will cite their busy schedule, the family that must be provided for, the bills that must be paid. Unmentioned is the tv-remote that seems to be permanently grafted to their hand, the recliner that fits only their posterior or the six-pack they're addicted too.
I used to be a caver and I know what it cost me. I climbed the hills and rocks as a surveyor all week and then did more of it on the weekends. I drove for hours to spend two more wrapped in a sleeping bag before hiking six miles to the site of a cave system we were mapping. Once there, I ate some dried fruit and dropped into a dark, wet hole in the rocks in hope of finding something like this article describes. I was never so lucky. Instead, I found more dark, wet passages, an occasional pool of crystal clear water or, on rare occasions, a stalagmite.
There is a book, an old book whose author I can't remember, entitled "The Caves Beyond." I recommend it.


37 posted on 09/24/2006 7:23:40 PM PDT by oldfart (The most dangerous man is the one who has nothing left to lose.)
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To: the final gentleman

If she be not so to me, what care I how fair she be, eh?


42 posted on 09/24/2006 8:03:07 PM PDT by Ignatz (Click your mouse three times and repeat, "There's no place like 127.0.0.1")
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To: the final gentleman

"Say oldfellow, who is this "they" that say? Certainly not anyone who thinks."

I did a little research to answer your question. Actually, I did very little research since I just typed the words into Google and let them do the work for me.
The "They" in question amounts to a pretty long list: Aldo Leopold and John Muir more recently but by allowing minor variations in sentence structure we can include William Shakespeare too. While some might take issue with the quality and subject content of their thoughts I doubt many will claim they did not "think."


52 posted on 09/27/2006 2:24:19 PM PDT by oldfart (The most dangerous man is the one who has nothing left to lose.)
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