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1 posted on 09/24/2006 8:15:59 AM PDT by tomzz
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Thought for a moment that someone took the article from the Oct. 2006 issue of the NRA's "American Rifleman" and posted it as their own, but now I see that this was the researcher's pre-publication draft.


2 posted on 09/24/2006 8:20:00 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (Treaty Fetishism: "[The] belief that a piece of paper will alter the behavior of thugs." R. Lowry.)
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4 posted on 09/24/2006 8:23:26 AM PDT by tomzz
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Very interesting, thanks!
5 posted on 09/24/2006 8:24:00 AM PDT by Slump Tester ( What if I'm pregnant Teddy? Errr-ahh Calm down Mary Jo, we'll cross that bridge when we come to it)
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I was reading about that in "Undaunted Courage". He accidentally shot a woman with it.


6 posted on 09/24/2006 8:24:02 AM PDT by King Moonracer (Bad lighting and cheap fabric, thats how you sell clothing.)
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People still make the big bores:


LA Outlaw - 430gr bullet at 732fps.

8 posted on 09/24/2006 8:31:01 AM PDT by jdege
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Very cool. Thanks!


9 posted on 09/24/2006 8:33:02 AM PDT by ConservativeMind
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Wow!!!

Am a Lewis and Clark nut &c.&c., and this page is awesome. How in the *hell* do I save a webpage for offline viewing to include all the photos?


11 posted on 09/24/2006 8:36:49 AM PDT by Freedom4US (u)
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To: tomzz
Very, very interesting!   Many thanks!
13 posted on 09/24/2006 8:44:11 AM PDT by jigsaw (God Bless Our Wonderful Troops.)
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One thing to note, in the black powder age, a rifle could only be fired a few times before gunking up to the point of needing a cleaning patch run through it, making the idea of a repeating rifle problematical at best. An air arm clearly had no such limitation.


14 posted on 09/24/2006 8:45:03 AM PDT by tomzz
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page holder thanks
15 posted on 09/24/2006 8:51:48 AM PDT by HuntsvilleTxVeteran ("Remember the Alamo, Goliad and WACO, It is Time for a new San Jacinto")
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Interesting!


16 posted on 09/24/2006 9:05:17 AM PDT by BenLurkin ("The entire remedy is with the people." - W. H. Harrison)
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17 posted on 09/24/2006 9:11:04 AM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist ©®)
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Fascinating article, albeit difficult to read because of the strange text formatting, but with a wealth of information of the Lewis & Clark air rifle and terrific diagrams explaining how it functioned.I read the National Geographic's abridged version of the L&C Journal and upon finishing it wished for a full text version.

from the article:
"For one example:
Private Whitehouse noted in his expedition journal entry of August 30, 1804 when Captain Lewis demonstrated his airgun to the Yankton Sioux in the Calumet Bluff area along the Missouri River, apparently on the Nebraska side:

"Captain Lewis took his Air Gun and shot her off, and by the Interpreter told them there was medicine in her, and that she could do very great execution. They all stood amazed at the curiosity; Captain Lewis discharged the Air Gun several times, and the Indians ran hastily to see the holes that the Balls had made which was discharged from it. at finding the balls had entered the Tree, they shouted a loud at the sight and the Execution that was done suprized them exceedingly."

[authors comment] The Indians would not have been able to comprehend the gun shooting again and again and again without reloading - and without flash or smoke.. This would have been terrifying for the "execution" that it might do!.

And repeated dmonstration throughout the 'Discovery Journey', which was remarkably peaceful, give credence to the "peace through supior firepower' school of thought.

20 posted on 09/24/2006 9:29:55 AM PDT by Covenantor
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That is one of the most interesting articles I have read in many a day. Thank you.

I recall reading that the only proven artifact remaining from the Lewis and Clark expedition is a stuffed beaver in a college museum. Now, it would appear, there are two.

It's staggering to think what this gun must be worth. Just as a wild guess, I would say ten million dollars if sold at auction.

Three cheers for Dr. Beeman for his intention to donate it to a museum. The Army War College may deserve a copy, but this gun really belongs in a place of honor in the Smithsonian.

-ccm

21 posted on 09/24/2006 9:32:42 AM PDT by ccmay (Too much Law; not enough Order)
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To: SAMWolf; snippy_about_it; alfa6; Peanut Gallery

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23 posted on 09/24/2006 9:37:28 AM PDT by Professional Engineer (As a matter of fact, I have been to a Star Trek convention.)
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I learn something new every day on Free Republic! The use of replaceable air cartridges for the gun is an amazingly advanced idea for that time. Fascinating article!


24 posted on 09/24/2006 9:53:24 AM PDT by 6SJ7
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What a wonderful article on a forgotten piece of American history and, even more dazzling, a brilliant piece of historical detective work.

A long read but even the technical parts are absolutely fascinating.


29 posted on 09/24/2006 11:21:58 AM PDT by wildbill
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Thanks for posting - a long read for a slow Sunday AM.

Lots of clever figures and other graphics, well worth the time. The fonts are a bit of a pain tho....


31 posted on 09/24/2006 12:20:26 PM PDT by ASOC (The phrase "What if" or "If only" are for children.)
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I'm a bit on the skeptical side about this story, but here it is, could be pingworthy. :')

Camping and Lewis and Clark
Miami Herald | Dave Barry
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36 posted on 09/24/2006 4:22:48 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (updated my FR profile on Saturday, September 16, 2006. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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Ping, good read here.

OT - that would take care of your 'bushy-tailed varmints'.


37 posted on 09/24/2006 5:32:52 PM PDT by osagebowman
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