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Lewis/Clark Air Rifle
Beeman AirArm Website ^ | 09/24/06 | Robert D. Beeman

Posted on 09/24/2006 8:15:58 AM PDT by tomzz

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1 posted on 09/24/2006 8:15:59 AM PDT by tomzz
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Thought for a moment that someone took the article from the Oct. 2006 issue of the NRA's "American Rifleman" and posted it as their own, but now I see that this was the researcher's pre-publication draft.


2 posted on 09/24/2006 8:20:00 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (Treaty Fetishism: "[The] belief that a piece of paper will alter the behavior of thugs." R. Lowry.)
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3 posted on 09/24/2006 8:22:31 AM PDT by alfa6 (Taxes are seldom levied for the benefit of the taxed.)
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fyi


4 posted on 09/24/2006 8:23:26 AM PDT by tomzz
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Very interesting, thanks!
5 posted on 09/24/2006 8:24:00 AM PDT by Slump Tester ( What if I'm pregnant Teddy? Errr-ahh Calm down Mary Jo, we'll cross that bridge when we come to it)
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I was reading about that in "Undaunted Courage". He accidentally shot a woman with it.


6 posted on 09/24/2006 8:24:02 AM PDT by King Moonracer (Bad lighting and cheap fabric, thats how you sell clothing.)
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I was reading about that in "Undaunted Courage". He accidentally shot a woman with it.

The woman could tell her kids she had the privilege of being shot with the world's single most valuable small arm.

7 posted on 09/24/2006 8:26:20 AM PDT by tomzz
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People still make the big bores:


LA Outlaw - 430gr bullet at 732fps.

8 posted on 09/24/2006 8:31:01 AM PDT by jdege
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To: tomzz

Very cool. Thanks!


9 posted on 09/24/2006 8:33:02 AM PDT by ConservativeMind
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430 Grains is excessive for North America. Dumb questions, what sort of velocity would you get with a 220 grain bullet, and would I be right in guessing that something like that would not be much less noisy than a 308??


10 posted on 09/24/2006 8:34:21 AM PDT by tomzz
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Wow!!!

Am a Lewis and Clark nut &c.&c., and this page is awesome. How in the *hell* do I save a webpage for offline viewing to include all the photos?


11 posted on 09/24/2006 8:36:49 AM PDT by Freedom4US (u)
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On FireFox at least, on the top menu line of the browser, click FILE and then SAVE AS and specify a file name a directory. The browser generates an htm file along with a directory of the same name containing images and/or other support files.


12 posted on 09/24/2006 8:42:54 AM PDT by tomzz
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Very, very interesting!   Many thanks!
13 posted on 09/24/2006 8:44:11 AM PDT by jigsaw (God Bless Our Wonderful Troops.)
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One thing to note, in the black powder age, a rifle could only be fired a few times before gunking up to the point of needing a cleaning patch run through it, making the idea of a repeating rifle problematical at best. An air arm clearly had no such limitation.


14 posted on 09/24/2006 8:45:03 AM PDT by tomzz
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page holder thanks
15 posted on 09/24/2006 8:51:48 AM PDT by HuntsvilleTxVeteran ("Remember the Alamo, Goliad and WACO, It is Time for a new San Jacinto")
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Interesting!


16 posted on 09/24/2006 9:05:17 AM PDT by BenLurkin ("The entire remedy is with the people." - W. H. Harrison)
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17 posted on 09/24/2006 9:11:04 AM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist ©®)
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So why didn't we buy one of these for our trip?


18 posted on 09/24/2006 9:13:50 AM PDT by OC_Steve
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430 Grains is excessive for North America. Dumb questions, what sort of velocity would you get with a 220 grain bullet, and would I be right in guessing that something like that would not be much less noisy than a 308??

Air rifle ballistics are considerably different than those of modern firearms. With airguns you are effectively limited to about 1400 fps for a maximum velocity and for practical purposes closer to 1000 fps. This is due to the expansion rate of compressed air. With big bores like the one above you probably couldn't even get close to that 1000 fps figure without dumping your entire charge of air on a single shot. The way they make up for it is by using heavy projectiles. This gives the kinetic energy and momentum necessary for hunting large game.

The .308 would probably be about 150 fps faster and get a few more shots per charge. Both rifles would have a report similar to a 45 ACP.

I ordered a .25 caliber air pistol kit from Dennis Quackenbush, (the guy that makes these rifles), a couple years ago and he's a great guy to talk to. He actually charges very reasonable prices for completely handmade airguns, (last I checked they were around $700), but if you ever order one, be prepared to wait. He has something like a 3 year waiting list for his big bores.

19 posted on 09/24/2006 9:19:11 AM PDT by elmer fudd
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Fascinating article, albeit difficult to read because of the strange text formatting, but with a wealth of information of the Lewis & Clark air rifle and terrific diagrams explaining how it functioned.I read the National Geographic's abridged version of the L&C Journal and upon finishing it wished for a full text version.

from the article:
"For one example:
Private Whitehouse noted in his expedition journal entry of August 30, 1804 when Captain Lewis demonstrated his airgun to the Yankton Sioux in the Calumet Bluff area along the Missouri River, apparently on the Nebraska side:

"Captain Lewis took his Air Gun and shot her off, and by the Interpreter told them there was medicine in her, and that she could do very great execution. They all stood amazed at the curiosity; Captain Lewis discharged the Air Gun several times, and the Indians ran hastily to see the holes that the Balls had made which was discharged from it. at finding the balls had entered the Tree, they shouted a loud at the sight and the Execution that was done suprized them exceedingly."

[authors comment] The Indians would not have been able to comprehend the gun shooting again and again and again without reloading - and without flash or smoke.. This would have been terrifying for the "execution" that it might do!.

And repeated dmonstration throughout the 'Discovery Journey', which was remarkably peaceful, give credence to the "peace through supior firepower' school of thought.

20 posted on 09/24/2006 9:29:55 AM PDT by Covenantor
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