[Zhang Fei]

Actually the Europeans are stagnating with high welfare costs, high unemployment and a birth dearth of their own. That's why the import muslims to pay for the generous welfare benefits they give out.

Actually, much of their unemployment stems from including in their statistics the illegal immigrants who show up there to collect welfare payments and free medical benefits. And have multiple children who then perpetuate the welfare benefit cycle. If European economic management is so bad, why are Ford, GM and Chrysler all losing money, whereas their German counterparts - not to mention France's Renault (!) - are staying afloat? Why is Airbus roughly even with Boeing despite have zero market share not too long ago? Look - jingoism is fine - just don't assert things that aren't supported by the facts.

[Dane]

Well if you call a 12% German unemployment rate prosperous, that's your perogative.

And the only way Airbus stays afloat is due to massive govt. subsidies, also Airbus had to roll the introduction of it's newest palnes, while Boeing is humming along with a good number of orders.