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The Future of Kosovo from a Serbian-American Perspective
Glas Javnosti ^ | Saturday, September 23, 2006 | By: Michael Pravica, Ph.D.

Posted on 09/23/2006 3:42:26 PM PDT by Bokababe

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To: Torie
The reality distortion field the Serbs generate over the subject of Kosovo just isn't worth dealing with anymore.

Whether Kostunica and Tadic understand this or not has become irrelevant in Washington and Brussels.

21 posted on 09/23/2006 4:34:46 PM PDT by Hoplite
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To: Torie

One doesn't lash out indiscrimately due to religious animus, which in this case is the veneer fostered by Serb agitprop to cover ethnic animosities and hatreds, regarding which the Serbs were the prime perps in fostering in recent history.




Well, concidering the fact that my father is hungarian catholic, my Godfater Romanian Ortodox...........

Im REAL SPECIMEN OF SERB AGITPROP!

Butttt

back to your claim that there is no Alquaeda on balkans...
Is NY times just stupid or they just said that there IS Alqaeda? And the rest of the articles?

Torie, you are funny!


22 posted on 09/23/2006 4:35:33 PM PDT by kronos77 (www.savekosovo.org and www.kosovo.net Save Kosovo from Islam!)
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To: Hoplite
It is just an old time reunion thingy, to capture some memories from the past.
23 posted on 09/23/2006 4:36:19 PM PDT by Torie
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To: Hoplite; Bokababe

Hahahahah

Torie asked for reinforcement!

Hoppy hurry, Serb just offended Islam! Save Islam, hurry!


24 posted on 09/23/2006 4:37:28 PM PDT by kronos77 (www.savekosovo.org and www.kosovo.net Save Kosovo from Islam!)
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To: kronos77

Hoplite is the expert on this one. I just drop in to say hello.


25 posted on 09/23/2006 4:38:08 PM PDT by Torie
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To: Hoplite

Shit Hoppy! You are too late. Islam just died!

(Ohhhh... wishfull thought)


26 posted on 09/23/2006 4:43:16 PM PDT by kronos77 (www.savekosovo.org and www.kosovo.net Save Kosovo from Islam!)
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To: Torie; joan; Bokababe

Hoppy is an expert in bowing five times per day.


27 posted on 09/23/2006 4:44:01 PM PDT by kronos77 (www.savekosovo.org and www.kosovo.net Save Kosovo from Islam!)
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To: kronos77

LOL. Of course. Hoplite and I do share the same "religion" mostly. Connect the dots. :)


28 posted on 09/23/2006 4:45:26 PM PDT by Torie
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To: Torie
Don't I wish it had ended like High School.

Alas, it just keeps going on and on - the closer tasseography comes to reality, the more tea our friends sea fit to dump into the harbor.

Such pointless striving and toil.

29 posted on 09/23/2006 4:45:34 PM PDT by Hoplite
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To: Hoplite

Tasseograpy: It is simply spendid when I learn a new word, this is as arresting as this one, since these days that is such a rare event. :) Kudos, and thanks. LOL.


30 posted on 09/23/2006 4:49:13 PM PDT by Torie
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To: Hoplite
Oh yeah? Why is the West so in need of Serbia's greenlighting the theft of Kosovo then? Why the sham negotiations? I mean, as you say, they couldn't care less what Serbia thinks, right?

The West can steal Kosovo and hand it to the Al-Qaida stormtroopers, but no Serb will ever accept that "reality."

I don't care what the West's reasoning is, no nation in recent history has had to give up its territory due to the (mis)deeds of its government - not even Nazi Germany - and no Western nation would ever allow an ethnic minority - a violent, militaristic and chauvinistic minority at that - living on its territory to secede. Why is the Basque Country not independent, for example? Is anyone forcing Spain to give it up? Didn't think so. How about Corsica? I don't see anyone forcing France to face "reality" and give that island independence.

Why should Serbia be an exception? Just because the Albanians breed like rats and have managed to outnumber -- and ethnically cleanse -- everyone else in the Province?

Give me a break...

31 posted on 09/23/2006 5:07:16 PM PDT by Banat (DEO • REGI • PATRIÆ | SAVEKOSOVO.org)
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To: Bokababe
In that spirit, I strongly encourage the government of Serbia not to allow the West to bully it into granting Kosovo independence. Though there have been many innuendos about Serbia's difficulty in joining the EC if Kosovo is not "let go," and talk of "lost incentives" for Serbia, we should be very wary of any "promises" coming from the West as they have always been reneged. Serbia has a long tradition of self-sufficiency and independence. Joining the EC will not be a panacea.

I've never figured out the European mania for joined the EU. The developed countries of East Asia never had an EU to join. They seem to have done fine, while not having to deal with pesky dictates from unelected and unaccountable foreign bureaucrats.
32 posted on 09/23/2006 5:15:18 PM PDT by Zhang Fei
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To: Banat
["Why is the Basque Country not independent...How about Corsica?...give that island independence."]

And, more importantly, how about Chechnya and Taiwan becoming independent. Let see how well that would set with the Russian and Chinese governments, respectively.
33 posted on 09/23/2006 5:16:04 PM PDT by LjubivojeRadosavljevic
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To: Torie

Richardson/Clark 08!

A discreet deal in the pipeline
Nato mocked those who claimed there was a plan for Caspian oil
Special report: the petrol war
George Monbiot
Thursday February 15, 2001
The Guardian

excerpted…

"In November 1998, Bill Richardson, then US energy secretary, spelt out his policy on the extraction and transport of Caspian oil. "This is about America's energy security," he explained."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,3604,438134,00.html


34 posted on 09/23/2006 5:17:43 PM PDT by dgallo51 (DEMAND IMMEDIATE, OPEN INVESTIGATIONS OF U.S. COMPLICITY IN RWANDAN GENOCIDE!)
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To: Banat

The Serbs seem to be breeding like Panda bears.


35 posted on 09/23/2006 5:18:44 PM PDT by Torie
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To: dgallo51
Ah the Caspian Oil conspiracy thing. Here is Hamiltonian, or whatever his name was, who was the "expert" on this one? This indeed is deja vu all all over again for me.
36 posted on 09/23/2006 5:21:03 PM PDT by Torie
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To: Torie

Bill Richardson was quoted…I didn't make it up…have some spinach Kool Aid…go ahead…it's good for you.


37 posted on 09/23/2006 5:22:46 PM PDT by dgallo51 (DEMAND IMMEDIATE, OPEN INVESTIGATIONS OF U.S. COMPLICITY IN RWANDAN GENOCIDE!)
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To: Torie

Friday, 22 June, 2001, 16:53 GMT 17:53 UK
Allies and lies
The Bosnian Muslim army was covertly supplied with arms by the US during the 1990s

In an investigation across six countries, Correspondent has uncovered a series of incidents which have tested the Western Alliance to breaking point. Dan Hebditch, associate producer on the programme, reports…

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/correspondent/1390536.stm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/static/audio_video/programmes/correspondent/transcripts/1402591.txt


38 posted on 09/23/2006 5:30:00 PM PDT by dgallo51 (DEMAND IMMEDIATE, OPEN INVESTIGATIONS OF U.S. COMPLICITY IN RWANDAN GENOCIDE!)
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To: Banat
Serbia's reality is Serbia's alone.

Deal with it - we already have, which is why we've chosen our present course of action.

39 posted on 09/23/2006 5:32:49 PM PDT by Hoplite
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To: Torie; Bokababe; joan; montyspython; DTA; getoffmylawn; ma bell; Beckwith; ...

The elite of the NWO are way ahead of this and now you know at least one of the many reasons why we fabricated an excuse to enter the Balkans........Follows:




Balkans experiencing black gold rush

30/05/2006

Balkan countries could potentially become players in the world oil market. With the building of one of three planned oil pipelines, the region could finally start cashing in on its geo-strategic position between the thirsty West and the oil rich East.

By Georgi Mitev-Shantek for Southeast European Times in Belgrade – 30/05/06

The interest in running pipelines through the Balkans is global. [File]

Oil transit from the Caspian Sea Region through the Balkans and into Europe and the United States is so significant that there are plans to build a total of three oil pipelines. However, experts agree that there is room for only two players. That was the message at a recent summit in Belgrade, attended by 150 representatives of governments and energy companies from the region, the EU, the US and Russia, as well as international institutions such as the IFC and the European Bank of Reconstruction and Development (EBRD).

The interest in running pipelines through the Balkans is global. Countries in the region would be getting cheaper oil and would charge duties and taxes and other services, while tankers that currently wait up to 20 days to pass these straits would reach the US that much sooner. Russian interests are clear, according to analyst Dejan Stojadinoviæ: a reduction in dependence on Turkey, which controls the Bosphorus Straits.

"The Balkan pipelines and associated natural gas pipelines could also be an opportunity for Europe to reduce its dependence on Russia," Sijka Pištolova, an energy analyst and editor of the Energyobserver Web site, indicated. The Energyobserver, together with Miroljub Labus, who stepped down recently as deputy prime minister of Serbia, organised the Belgrade summit.

The plan for the 300km pipeline from the Bulgarian port of Burgas to the Greek port Aleksandropolis was approved in 1997. Investment in the project was rubber stamped by several partners -- Greece's Hellenic Petroleum, Latsis Group and Prometheu gas, Bulgaria's Bulgargaz and Univerzalni terminali Burgas, and Russia's TNK-BP, Rosneft and Gazprom. Moscow is urging companies to open these channels as soon as possible.

Bulgaria is also working on another project, a pipeline west from Burgas -- through Macedonia -- to the Albanian port of Valona. Though in principle, Washington supports all projects that could assure better access to Caspian "gold", this pipeline is proving the most interesting. The US government financed a feasibility study for a 900km pipeline, while the AMBO Corporation was founded in the States with exclusive rights to select partners for implementing the $1.24 billion project. Shortly after the Belgrade summit, Macedonia's Economy Ministry indicated that companies managing and exploiting the pipeline will be "entitled to all rights".

Countries in the northern Balkans want a piece of the action too. Romania, Serbia, Croatia, Slovenia and Italy are trying to find common language regarding the Pan European pipeline. It would run from Konstance, through the Serbian oil refinery in Pancevo, to the Italian port of Trieste on the Adriatic. Though this project has enormous advantages over its competitors -- at least twice the capacity, refineries and consumers along its route, partial construction under way, and an existing "pipe-to-pipe" connection to a line that crosses the Alps in Trieste -- its far less advanced than others.

In this race, likely to start bearing fruit at the beginning of the next decade, the winner could take all.



-Caspian crude is of different type than Persian gulf crude or North Sea crude. It requres different refining technlogy, like one used in former USSR.

-there is much less oil in Caspian basin then generally thought.

-The name of the game is not Caspian oil, but Caspian natural gas. When sold to Pakistan and India, it can be sold at higher prices than on world market. It can also keep them in check.

-China is desperate to get hold of this natural gas via Afgan pipeline. That is what Afgan war prevented.

I found it curious that Milosevic death was for several days the top rated news worldwide, as if nothing more important was going on at that time. Experience tells me it was a merely a filler, to detract attention from the real top story, one related to Iran I guess.



Caspian pipeline unites nations
Two sections of an important pipeline due to bring Caspian oil to Western markets have been connected at a ceremony on the Azeri-Georgian border.
Azeri President Ilham Aliyev said the project, due to be completed next year, would bring great financial wealth and boost regional security.
The multi-billion dollar pipeline from Baku in Azerbaijan to the Turkish port of Ceyhan is backed by Washington.
Russia has proposed an alternative route through its own territory.
'A start'
"The oil pipeline has united two brotherly nations," Mr Aliyev said at the opening ceremony on Saturday.
"The whole region needs this pipeline."
Georgian President Mikhail Saakashvili said that some forces had tried to stop the project but had failed.
"I have no false illusions that this one pipe will be able to solve all our problems, but this is a start," he said.
"This pipeline marks a major step toward the independence of both Georgia and Azerbaijan," he added.
The Baku-Tbilisi-Ceyhan (BTC) pipeline will run through Georgia to the Turkish port of Ceyhan on the Mediterranean coast.
The project, led by British oil giant BP with the support of the US government, covers 1,760 km (1,094 miles).
Story from BBC NEWS:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/2/hi/europe/3749616.stm

Published: 2004/10/16 16:23:45 GMT

© BBC MMVI
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/3749616.stm




Go ahead for Balkan oil pipeline
Albania, Bulgaria and Macedonia have given the go ahead for the construction of a $1.2bn oil pipeline that will pass through the Balkan peninsula.
The project aims to allow alternative ports for the shipping of Russian and Caspian oil, that normally goes through the Bosphorus straits.
It aims to transport 750,000 daily barrels of oil.
The pipeline will be built by the US-registered Albanian Macedonian Bulgarian Oil Corporation (AMBO).
The pipeline will run for nearly 900 kilometres from the Bulgarian port of Burgas, over the Black Sea to the Albanian city of Vlore on the Adriatic coast, crossing Macedonia.
Delayed project
The project was first conceived in 1994 but has suffered delays due to uncertainties about whether there was sufficient demand.
By signing the agreement on Tuesday, the prime ministers of Bulgaria, Albania and Macedonia have overcome the problem.
"This is one of the most important infrastructure projects for regional, EU, and Euro-Atlantic integration for the western Balkans," said Albanian Prime Minister Fatos Nano.
According to AMBO president Edward Ferguson, work on the pipeline will begin in 2005 and it is expected to be ready in three or four years.
He added that the company had already raised about $900m from the Overseas Private Investment Corporation (OPIC) - a US development agency - the Eximbank and Credit Suisse First Boston, among others.
The project has also the support of the European Union.
Analysts have said that oil companies like ChevronTexaco, Exxon Mobil and British Petroleum would be happy to find alternative routes to the Bosphorus and Dardanelles Straits.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/4130271.stm
Story from BBC NEWS:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/2/hi/business/4130271.stm

Published: 2004/12/28 16:19:23 GMT

© BBC MMVI





40 posted on 09/23/2006 5:41:17 PM PDT by tgambill (I would like to comment.....)
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