Unborn Child Pain Awareness Act Re-Introduced in Congress

Concerned Women for America ^ | 9/21/06 | Ashley Horne

[wagglebee]

Congress even requires pain to be minimized for livestock which are slaughtered. How much more then should Congress seek to minimize the pain an unborn child feels when he or she is aborted?

The left is far more concerned with pleasing PETA than it is with protecting human beings.

[wagglebee]

Pro-Life Ping

[T Minus Four]

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[retMD]

Interested in the science - do you have a link to an objective scientific study about pain in the fetus? Last I read, I thought the scientific community didn't find the science to support this. It's been a while though.

[wagglebee]

http://www.fetal-pain.com/fetal_pain_research.htm

http://www.nrlc.org/abortion/fetal_pain/index.html

http://www.nrlc.org/news/2004/NRL04/a_pain_too_awful_to_imagine.htm

http://www.mccl.org/fp_news/fetal_pain.htm

[PEACE ENFORCER]

My wife was NOT aborted as an unborn child.(she was put up for adoption by her unmarried mother & father) She is a Beautiful, Intelligent, Warm Hearted, Caring (Intensive Care Unit Nurse) Productive member of society, and the mother of my two (one due to be born Oct,28,2006) Daughters. I am grateful her unmarried parents did not commit murder or I would have never found my Soul Mate. I thank God every day for this. This is what I do believe one of the differences between the two Political Parties is:

DEMOCRATIC PARTY OF DEATH: Death to Americans including UNBORN BABIES !!!!

REPUBLICAN PARTY OF DEATH TO OUR ENEMIES & LIFE FOR UNBORN CHILDERN.

Just some minor differences between our two Political Parties Ideologically Speaking. Screw ALL LIBERALS (Death Preferably) !!!

SINCERLEY
PEACE ENFORCER

[getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL]

Holy mackeral, what have we become? Do they not understand this twisted logic? It feels, it breathes, it sleeps, it eats...yet it's not protected from death because some want to call it anything but a human being? Would we be sedating the baby with this legislation or those wanting to continue with abortions?

How sad it is.

[retMD]

Sorry, I was looking for the objective research papers, not summaries or press releases. The first link goes to a site that appears to have research links, but those don't work, the other sites are essays or press releases. Any research paper links you can give me?

[wagglebee]

If you are a physician, you probably have research sites that have links to these studies.

[MistrX]

The left says screw the unborn. They are more concerned that killers experience pain while being executed.

[Gondring]

Looks like JAMA said in Vol. 294 No. 8, August 24/31, 2005:

Conclusions Evidence regarding the capacity for fetal pain is limited but indicates that fetal perception of pain is unlikely before the third trimester. Little or no evidence addresses the effectiveness of direct fetal anesthetic or analgesic techniques. Similarly, limited or no data exist on the safety of such techniques for pregnant women in the context of abortion. Anesthetic techniques currently used during fetal surgery are not directly applicable to abortion procedures.

It's interesting that this review was focused on surgical techniques, and makes that distinction from abortion-procedure anesthesia. If you find references about this topic, I'm interested in what differences there are. (Also note the limitations of this above study cited in its abstract.)

[wagglebee]

The American Medical Association is hardly an unbiased group on infanticide.

[Guenevere]

God love Smith and Brownback for trying....and trying...and trying...

Someday, through their perseverance and the efforts of others....

the truth will come to light for the whole world to see.

[proudmilitarymrs]

from your lips to God's ear

[thomaswest]

Pure grandstanding.

[conservative blonde]

Not all elected Republicans are pro-life. The RINOs are mostly pro-death for the unborn.

[SkyPilot]

Pure grandstanding.

What grandstanding? Do you mean to say that legislation protecting livestock from pain is valid, but not unborn human babies?

[Coleus]

Interested in the science - do you have a link to an objective scientific study about pain in the fetus? >>

what's the reason for the "study" of the pain? We give pain meds. to dogs when we kill them and we also give pain meds to death-row convicts when we execute them by injection, so why not in a helpless baby? Do we really have to attach eeg probes to a baby fetus to measure its brainwaves before we kill it to know for sure whether or not he feels pain? Remember baby Samuel Armas who reached out of the womb and grabbed the surgeon's finger? I think his senses were developed.

[annie laurie]

My wife was NOT aborted as an unborn child.(she was put up for adoption by her unmarried mother & father) She is a Beautiful, Intelligent, Warm Hearted, Caring (Intensive Care Unit Nurse) Productive member of society, and the mother of my two (one due to be born Oct,28,2006) Daughters. I am grateful her unmarried parents did not commit murder or I would have never found my Soul Mate.

What a lovely post! :)

[retMD]

The reason I want to see the studies is to see if there is a scientific basis for this law. From a scientific background, I'm naturally interested in the science.

I'm not equating the two, but to pursue your own analogy, when a veterinarian removes a pregnant uterus, or does a medical abortion on a pet, I don't think they use anesthesia for the fetuses. Which doesn't mean much, except that analogy is slippery and easily takes one off course. Scientifically speaking, a fetus at certain stages does not have the same capabilities as a full term infant. You cite a baby who reached out of the womb, but that doesn't mean that a 20 week fetus could do the same thing.