[robertpaulsen]

"Having a large number of citizens trained in the use of arms being necessary to the security of a free state, the right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."

Or, even better, having a large number of white, male citizens between the ages of 18 and 45, registered and trained by state-appointed officers in the use of arms being necessary to the security of a free state, the right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

Every lower federal court in every RKBA case (save one court in one case) has ruled that the second amendment protects a collective right from federal, not state, infringement (ie., the RKBA as part of a militia).

[Publius]

Judge Bork on the 2nd Amendment & Gun Control

[William Tell]

robertpaulsen said: "Every lower federal court in every RKBA case (save one court in one case) has ruled that the second amendment protects a collective right from federal, not state, infringement (ie., the RKBA as part of a militia)."

Really? That's amazing. Only one?

What about the lower court from which US v. Miller was appealed? Please tell us who appealed that decision and what the decision was.

[cryptical]

he right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

It's "the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.", which makes it hard to mistake it for a collective right under government control, unless "the people" of the 2nd amendment are different than "the people" of the 1st, 4th, 9th and 10th amendments.

[Peisistratus]

":Or, even better, having a large number of white, male citizens between the ages of 18 and 45, registered and trained by state-appointed officers in the use of arms being necessary to the security of a free state, the right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."

Which STILL would state that the right of the PEOPLE to have arms shall not be infringed. Militia use their *own* weapons. The first clause is only a REASON why the operative clause is there, it is not a requirement. Is English now a secondary language in this country?

"Every lower federal court in every RKBA case (save one court in one case) has ruled that the second amendment protects a collective right from federal, not state, infringement (ie., the RKBA as part of a militia)."

This is a lie.