Posted on 09/22/2006 10:17:14 PM PDT by DakotaRed
U.S. fatalities in war exceed those from Sept. 11 Military deaths in Iraq, Afghanistan reach 2,974 The Associated Press
Updated: 7:44 p.m. PT Sept 22, 2006
U.S. military deaths from Iraq and Afghanistan now surpass those of the most devastating terrorist attack in America’s history, the trigger for what came next.
The latest milestone for a country at war came Friday without commemoration.
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Not for the first time, war that was started to answer death has resulted in at least as much death for the country that was first attacked, quite apart from the higher numbers of enemy and civilians killed, too.
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“There’s never a good war but if the war’s going well and the overall mission remains powerful, these numbers are not what people are focusing on,” said Julian Zelizer, a political historian at Boston University. “If this becomes the subject, then something’s gone wrong.”
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A new study on the war dead and where they come from suggests that the notion of “rich man’s war, poor man’s fight” has become a little truer over time.
(Excerpt) Read more at msnbc.msn.com ...
When they hit the 2000th death last year, I sent the following to my local paper. The numbers have changed, but the feelings within me are the same;
Terrorism continues, too
With the all the mention recently of families mourning the 2,000th loss of loved ones in Iraq, I also think of the families still mourning from 9/11. I also think of the families mourning from the USS Cole as well as others mourning the Khobar Towers bombing.
There are literally thousands of families, American, European, Arab, and Asian, who mourn the loss of loved ones at the hands of terrorists. These terrorists have to be stopped. This war on terror should have been started 30 years ago, before they gained the support and power they have today. Appease them now and imagine the power they will have 10 or 20 years from now.
At the same time as I shed my tears over these 2,000, I also beam with pride that this latest generation has produced such fine young men and women who willingly placed themselves in harm's way for the protection and liberation of others and have paid the ultimate sacrifice. Their sacrifices are not to be taken lightly, denigrated or sensationalized but deserve to be held up to the entire world as among the finest people this country has ever produced.
As in John 15:13, "Greater love has no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends."
Lew Waters Vancouver
I'd like to see an enemy dead count.
That doesn't fit their anti-war agenda. It might let readers know we are winning.
The number of deaths suffered at Pearl Harbor were exceeded by military casualties very, very soon after the war started - much sooner than five years.
Women and children impacted the most! /leftist mindset
Well the U.S. loses 20 times more people in auto accidents each year than we've lost since we invaded Iraq.
yes, indeed. Thousands died at Pearl Harbor. If you add up all casualties in World War 2, tens of millions died.
Leave it to the idiots at the Associated Press to get things exactly wrong. Instead of comparing the deaths from the 9/11 attacks with the military deaths on the battlefield (or due to other reasons) since 9/11, as a wrongheaded attempt to balance the casualties on one side against those on the other, an enlightened observer with a more intelligent perspective would understand that those deaths need to be added together, along with the deaths of other Americans at the hands of terrorists worldwide, rather than compared one group with the other, to come up with a total of American deaths due to Islamofascists and other assorted barbarians. Sadly, these are all casualties of a war that the enemies of civilization have brought to our doorstep, but we are fighting back.
Correction.. "....the New York TIMES...."
On the other hand, if Hillary and gang gets elected there might not be a New York either
Well .. we lost fewer people at Pearl Harbor .. but it cost us another 400,000 Americans to win the battle.
The dem cowards don't think the sacrifice was worth it.
What really bothers me .. United 93 SAVED THEIR STINKING REAR ENDS and they aren't even grateful.
It should also be noted that with the constant negativity in reporting, instant condemnation of our troops whenever anything is accused, nothing but disdain for George Bush, glorification of those opposing us and humanization of our enemies, as well as the urging of our "understanding their anger," is most likely what "has gone so wrong" in this war.
When someone mentions causalties, I try to put it context...
Apples to oranges comparison by the morbid MSM.
Don't tell me that they are saddened by these deaths.
This seems rather abusive to the honor and memories
of those fallen heros.
Like someone said, that many die every day in auto accidents.
I posted pictures from Y2K celebrations with people wearing "2000" sunglasses, in obvious mock satire. It wasn't far off, unfortunately.
From the FBI.. (http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/cius_04/offenses_reported/violent_crime/murder.html)
2004 USA Homicide victims = 14,121
Total US Population = 285,000,000
Total Iraq Population = Appx 25,000,000
The US has approximately 11.4 times the population of Iraq.
In year 2004 there were 14,121 recorded homicide victims in the US (see FBI site above)
(14,121 US Homicide victims/11.4) = 1238.68 Appx US Homicide victims per 25,000,000 people in the US
Total US military deaths in Iraq as of Sept. 22, 2006 = 2695 (http://www.forbes.com/entrepreneurs/feeds/ap/2006/09/22/ap3039322.html)
The war in Iraq began in March, 2003... About 3.5 years ago.
3.5 years = 42 months
2695 total military deaths in Iraq / 42 months = 61.17 deaths per month (average)
61.17 dpm x 12 months per year = 734 US military deaths per year in Iraq, average.
Conclusion: In the US, based on 2004 homicide totals, there were appx 1238.68 homicide victims per 25 million people. The total number of US military personnel killed in that same time, within a similar population in Iraq was, on average, 734.
So, per 25 million people, per year, the homicide rate in the US was 1238.68. The homicide rate of US soldiers in Iraq, per 25 million, per year, is 734. The total number of homicide victims, in a similar population, during the same time, was NEARLY TWICE in the US what it was in Iraq.
The total number of murders in Washington DC alone in 2004 wAS 198... NEARLY 27 PERCENT OF THE TOTAL AVERAGE DEATHS OF US MILITARY PERSONNEL IN IRAQ IN 2004.
Maybe Washington DC has a bigger problem than Iraq.
U.S. fatalities in war equal those from Sept. 11
MSNBC September 22, 2006 | Associated Press
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On News/Activism 09/22/2006 7:11:42 PM CDT · 37 replies · 433+ views
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