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To: Mase
I guess if you understood the difference between a government imposing price controls on an industry versus a retailer offering $4.00 generic drugs as a loss leader and public relations coup, in one state, you'd be able to answer the question without my help.

I guess if you had any greater inkling of how free markets worked than a Cuban shoe factory manager, you wouldn't be such a big fan of having the federosaurus prevent us from buying drugs at open-market prices in countries where NO PRICE CONTROLS EVER EXISTED, such as Switzerland. And whether a price-controlled country like Canada wants to sell to Americans is totally its own business. It represents a market large enough that American manufacturers, who are totally free to sell or not sell to Canadians as they wish, choose to sell products there.

All we want is for American consumers to be as free to buy globally as American drug manufacturers are to sell globally.

26 posted on 09/23/2006 10:06:00 PM PDT by BlazingArizona
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To: BlazingArizona
I guess if you had any greater inkling of how free markets worked than a Cuban shoe factory manager...

Now that's funny coming from someone who thinks that buying drugs from whoever has the best price, even though that low price is caused by state mandated price controls, represents the free market.

..you wouldn't be such a big fan of having the federosaurus prevent us from buying drugs at open-market prices in countries where NO PRICE CONTROLS EVER EXISTED, such as Switzerland.

But you're taking advantage of the system in a price controlled country. How many non-price controlled countries are there? Four? If you want to buy from a country that isn't a signatory to the 1994 treaty mandating these controls, then you should be allowed. Of course, that would end any price breaks that the drug companies may be offering to the poorest countries of the world. Any country that is a party to the 1994 treaty agreed not to re-export the drugs they've coerced out of the drug manufacturers.

And whether a price-controlled country like Canada wants to sell to Americans is totally its own business.

Nonsense. By allowing re-importation to the U.S., Canada is violating an international treaty they signed. Anyone believing in the rule of law should condemn their actions. The irony of all this is that Canada will not have enough drugs for their own people if they allow this to continue. You see, the drug companies are now limiting the supply of pharmaceuticals they sell so that there is enough for Canadians to use -- but not enough to re-sell back to the U.S. As U.S. manufacturers limit drug supplies sold to Canada, there will be market disequilibrium there -- huge demand from the United States, but a dwindling supply of drugs for Canada to sell back to us. When this occurs, Canada will go to other controlled markets like Mexico, Bangladesh and Slovenia which will dramatically increase the chance of them receiving bogus or adulterated products. Right now both Canadian and U.S. officials acknowledge that there is no system in place for determining the safety and efficacy of these imported items. Many people don't believe this is possible but this is nothing more than wishful thinking. Bogus drugs is becoming big business. You can read a new study on that fact here.

It represents a market large enough that American manufacturers, who are totally free to sell or not sell to Canadians as they wish, choose to sell products there.

You don't have the facts. A world trade agreement passed in 1994 dictates that any U.S. company that refuses to comply with another country's pharmaceutical price controls by selling drugs at greatly reduced prices risks losing its patent protection.

This clause, which only applies to pharmaceuticals, allows the purchaser to violate all patent protections and make knock-off versions. In essence, if the drug makers don't so as they say the purchasing country can steal their intellectual property without any fear of reprisals. Why is it that conservatives here scream when China does that to our software but advocate for it when it comes to pharmaceuticals?

All we want is for American consumers to be as free to buy globally as American drug manufacturers are to sell globally.

As you can see from the information I've provided, American drug manufacturers don't have a great deal of freedom to sell globally so the rest is meaningless. If you were really concerned about the price of drugs you'd be demanding that price controls be eliminated so that other developed countries of the world bear their fair share of the costs to develop them. If you believe in markets then this is the only position you can take. If you don't believe in markets then you must agree that it is the suppliers duty to society to produce these drugs and that the profit motive has no relationship to innovation. Your position will ensure that new drug development dies. Countries embracing price controls are the graveyard of innovation. There's a reason why more than 90% of all new drugs brought to market are discovered in the U.S. It's the same reason why most of the major drug makers have chosen to locate their R&D facilities here in the U.S.

27 posted on 09/24/2006 9:25:46 PM PDT by Mase
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