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1 posted on 09/20/2006 5:14:16 AM PDT by Puppage
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Interesting.

Typically, I would say that he's on shaky legal ground.

BUT - kids are compelled by law to be at school, and thus compelled to submit to metal detector scans and searches.

I never thought about it.....I think that it will be interesting to see the outcome.

42 posted on 09/20/2006 6:20:51 AM PDT by wbill
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The kid is dead on, especially if you read the article.

In order to establish a reasonable search there need to be written guidelines.

Without written guidelines someone who was caught with a weapon could scream 4th amendment and get away with it.

You can't just decide to start searches because you feel like it.


46 posted on 09/20/2006 6:35:15 AM PDT by rwilson99 (95% of Al-Jazzera Viewers Agree... the world is less safe (for them) since 9/11)
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Good for this kid.

People voluntarily participate. Students are compelled to attend the government school.


49 posted on 09/20/2006 7:01:27 AM PDT by School of Rational Thought (Republican - The thinking people's party)
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Ah, a future ACLU lawyer in the making....


73 posted on 09/20/2006 8:48:19 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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Poor kid misunderstands that public schools have nothing to do with silly old inalienable rights. He probably still thinks the public schools support free speech too. Wait till he gets to college, he's in for a surprise.
125 posted on 09/20/2006 9:17:24 PM PDT by LifeOrGoods? (God is not a God of fear, but of power, love and a sane mind.)
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The district says it is like the right to enter a courtroom or get on a plane. It's new policy to keep young people safe.

If they wanted to keep young people safe they wouldn't have public schools.

126 posted on 09/20/2006 9:19:44 PM PDT by LifeOrGoods? (God is not a God of fear, but of power, love and a sane mind.)
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Nick Evans -- professional dickhead


133 posted on 09/24/2006 2:43:41 PM PDT by toddlintown (Six bullets and Lennon goes down. Yet not one hit Yoko. Discuss.)
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Student questions legality of metal detectors at school


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The fundamental question that needs to be asked is: "Are government schools themselves constitutional on a state and federal level?" The answer is, "No!"

Asking if metal detectors are constitutional is merely smearing the icing around the top of a constitutionally rotten cake.

The following is an excellent essay explaining why government schools are unconstitutional on a state and local level:

http://www.newswithviews.com/Stuter/stuter9.htm


147 posted on 09/25/2006 2:49:45 PM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid)
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The district says it is like the right to enter a courtroom or get on a plane

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People volunteer to fly planes and their are alternative transport.

People are in court because of criminal activity, or they voluntarily sue someone, or they by law must respond to a civil suit.

For most children, government schools are NOT voluntary. They are compelled by law to attend. If they don't, they and their parents face armed police, court, and foster care action. Once in these prison-like institutions children are treated like prisoners. They are subjected to metal detectors. They can be searched without a warrant. They are told to shut up. They can publish only what the government allows. They must associate only with those the government assigns to them. They can not freely profess or practice their religion. They are marched about to the sound of Pavlov's bells. They are told when and what they can eat, and when they can rest and exercise. They exercise must be government approved. They are even forced to take group showers.

Real criminals in real prisons have one advantage over kids in their kid prisons ( oops! "skools"). Real felons are not subjected to the constant drip, drip, drip, of indoctrination in the non-offical government school anti-religion of Secular Humanism.
148 posted on 09/25/2006 2:57:42 PM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid)
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Might as well challenge this and any other damned thing while they're at it.

Unless the establishment powers-to-be are prepared to explain & defend such matters they're toast.

And forget what used to be all that was necessary to get everyone behind an idea, since it really doesn't exist any longer.

..."We hold these truths to be self evident."

154 posted on 09/25/2006 3:20:53 PM PDT by Landru (That does it, no sleep number for you pal.)
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That's right young child, you don't have to obey anyone honey. There is no right or wrong, no black or white. You just do whatever you want sweetie! Here in lies the problem in this nation.


161 posted on 09/25/2006 5:31:05 PM PDT by ladyinred
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Here's another thread on a different kind of search for school children:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1707337/posts

My son would be pulled from school if any school official ever laid a hand on him. (Of course, I already hate public school, and am working on getting the money to send him to private school.)


162 posted on 09/25/2006 5:41:32 PM PDT by luckystarmom
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About http://www.METAL-DETECTOR-REVIEW.COM
I want to buy a metal detector but I don't know which is the best. I found a lot of informations about that on http://www.METAL-DETECTOR-REVIEW.COM and I want to know more about which model is ideal for treasure hunting. Any recommendations would be appreciated, make and model, etc)

Thanks


166 posted on 10/14/2006 3:20:59 AM PDT by adeel0
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