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Student questions legality of metal detectors at school
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| 9/20/06
| Puppage
Posted on 09/20/2006 5:14:15 AM PDT by Puppage
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Your rationale is irrelevant. You believe that public schools are prisons and public school students are prisoners. There is nothing left to explain.
Man, whatever you're tokin', I hope you'll share. I said NOTHING of the kind. I don't even know where you came by any of that crap to attribute to me. Try reading the post again.
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posted on
09/20/2006 8:31:45 AM PDT
by
DustyMoment
(FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
To: E. Pluribus Unum
Why does it bother you more that a normal student might object to being treated like a criminal?Indeed.
As far as the government is concerned, we're all criminals until/unless we advance to being a member of the 'protected class' where the rules just don't apply.
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posted on
09/20/2006 8:32:38 AM PDT
by
zeugma
(I reject your reality and substitute my own in its place. (http://www.zprc.org/))
To: Arcy
The parent of this child should tell him to shut up about the metal detector. Remind the child he is there to study and learn. Not to bring about legal action. I dont know...sounds like the kid is learning pretty well to me. He's actually read the school policies, understands English and wants to stand up for his rights rather than just roll over and take it. I agree with him.
To: MAD-AS-HELL
What the school needs to do is find the two or three disgruntaled kids planning on staging a school shooting and set a date for them to do it. They then tell all the kids except for this one moron not to come to school. On that day, the kids with guns come into the school to only to find Mr. 4th Amendment the only one in class. Let's see how he likes his 4th amendment then. Do you have a problem with the government being obligated to have a reason to search you?
To: E. Pluribus Unum
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posted on
09/20/2006 8:36:45 AM PDT
by
gcruse
(http://gcruse.typepad.com)
To: HonorsDaddy
The government has a reason to search him. The reason is because he's entering a public school. He doesn't have to submit to the search. He is abslutely free to stay home and study there.
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posted on
09/20/2006 8:38:12 AM PDT
by
kjam22
To: BaBaStooey
It is not unreasonable to consider the safety of each person inside the school, especially when the school is liable. Except as we all know, the school is not legally liable for the kids safety... Think they are? Let Little Johnny break his leg at school or something and then go ahead and expect the school to pay for it.
To: DustyMoment
I guess you want me to respond to the metal detector not being a search.
I'm not really interested in playing games of semantics with you, but if it wasn't a search it wouldn't be mandatory.
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posted on
09/20/2006 8:41:34 AM PDT
by
E. Pluribus Unum
(Islam is a religion of peace, and Muslims reserve the right to kill anyone who says otherwise.)
To: dpa5923
10th graders are people as well as 7 year olds. Neither have a legal right to bear arms. The rights enshrined in the first ten amendments are not absolute. You do not have the right to commit perjury or produce child porn, both examples of speech and press. Interesting theory - albiet completely false.
Committing perjury is hardly an example of free speech. You swear to tell the truth, yada yada yada, and then lie? That causes direct harm to another person thereby violating HIS rights - hence, it isnt a 1st Amendment issue. Remember, your rights end when your exercise of them infringes upon anothers rights.
Same thing with child porn. The perpetrators of that are committing a direct violation of a child and causing him harm. As you have no right to harm another, this is certainly NOT a protected expression of your right to a free press.
You want to try again?
To: E. Pluribus Unum
-When you exit Wal-Mart through the RFID detectors with a new pen in your pocket, have you been searched?
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posted on
09/20/2006 8:46:32 AM PDT
by
gcruse
(http://gcruse.typepad.com)
To: kjam22
The government has a reason to search him. The reason is because he's entering a public school. He doesn't have to submit to the search. He is abslutely free to stay home and study there. Oh puhleeze - thats weak beyond measure.
That logic would mean i could be searched on the street at will as I'm absolutely free to stay at home.
To: cryptical
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posted on
09/20/2006 8:48:12 AM PDT
by
verity
(The MSM is comprised of useless eaters)
To: Puppage
Ah, a future ACLU lawyer in the making....
To: gcruse
-When you exit Wal-Mart through the RFID detectors with a new pen in your pocket, have you been searched? Irrelevant. The state is neither committing the search nor compelling you to go to Wal-Mart.
To: HonorsDaddy
I'm just asking if the RFID scan constitutes a search. Nothing more. Does it?
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posted on
09/20/2006 8:49:08 AM PDT
by
gcruse
(http://gcruse.typepad.com)
To: HonorsDaddy
No, you missed my point entirely. My point is that the lone kid who is challenging the policy would reconsider challenging it if he was faced with gunmen that otherwise would have been stopped had there been metal detectors.
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posted on
09/20/2006 8:52:07 AM PDT
by
MAD-AS-HELL
(How to win over terrorist? KILL them with UNKINDNESS.)
To: HonorsDaddy
When my friends and I attempted to play tackle football at recess when I was 12, we were yelled at. Why would the school have rules banning rough play on the playground (which we attempted to ignore until we were caught) if they felt they wouldn't be liable for the safety of students?
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posted on
09/20/2006 8:54:52 AM PDT
by
BaBaStooey
(I heart Emma Caulfield.)
To: HonorsDaddy
You can be searched anytime on a public street, if there is a reason. Entering a public school is a reason. Entering a stadium at a college football game is a reason. Entering the white house or capital building. Suspicion that you're driving drunk. Suspicion that your transporting biological weapons. The government is obligated to protect the citizens. But no one is subect to these searches. Only those who want to enter or use goverment owned facilities.
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posted on
09/20/2006 8:56:19 AM PDT
by
kjam22
To: E. Pluribus Unum
I'm not really interested in playing games of semantics with you, but if it wasn't a search it wouldn't be mandatory.
Translation: I can't respond to your post because it showed that I didn't know what I was talking about, so I will engage in circular arguments that have nothing to do with the questions and counter-arguments I posed to you.
Thanks for playing.
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posted on
09/20/2006 9:02:26 AM PDT
by
DustyMoment
(FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
To: E. Pluribus Unum
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posted on
09/20/2006 9:07:46 AM PDT
by
Balding_Eagle
(God has blessed Republicans with political enemies who are going senile.)
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