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To: Badray
What disturbs me most is how the conservatives are trying to become the liberals in reverse. If I dare disagree it means I'm out. I am beginning to have a new appreciation for Joe Lieberman's position not to mention Zell Miller.

BTW thanks for being so patronizing first thing in the morning. You guys wonder why so many people are turned off and don't pay attention. Try the real world and not lecturing from on high and you may just get a clue. I am tired of the threats and temper tantrums. If Hillary is back in the White House I won't find you and say I told you so, because that's not classy. But by all means keep turning people away. Great plan. Fortunately you are not running the party. So I am secure.

People who actually are involved on the ground know that the real battle is for the middle and if you guys persist in your threats to leave, then fine, we just will have to work even harder for more of the middle.

650 posted on 09/20/2006 2:56:08 AM PDT by defconw (Yes I am a Bushbot, so what of it? (Official Snowflake))
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To: defconw

Aww. Did I hurt your feelings? Logic didn't seem to have any affect on you, so I figured that I could appeal to your emotions. Besides, that wasn't early morning for me. That time is the end of my day, not the beginning.

Lieberman is a liberal who supports the war, but he is a liberal. Miller is a liberal who supports the war. Maybe it was because he is a Marine, but he is still a liberal.

Maybe you relate to them better than I do is because so much of the GOP is liberal today. In many ways the Dems of the early 60's were more conservative than the pubbies of today.

If the GOP was 'reaching out to the middle' by holding to our values and showing that middle why it's better to vote conservative, I'd have no problems with their 'outreach'. But what they do is cede one value after another as unimportant if the people will just become Republican. You win nothing, you advance nothing if in the process of growing the party, you become more like that which you used to oppose.

If the GOP only wants to hold power without advancing conservative values, why should I care whether they win or lose? Because the other guy is worse? Sorry. I don't scare that easily.

And talk about threats? You wave the threat of Hillary in my face and think that I should . . . What? Get scared? The only way that Hillary wins is if the GOP puts up a liberal to oppose her (If she gets the Dem nod which I don't even think that she'll get.). We survived 8 years of her husband and in fact, conservatism grew while he was there. Do you think that the whole country goes to hell if she wins? Bush has done more to tear the GOP apart than BJ Clinton ever could. He united us against him.

How do you get through your day with such fears?


655 posted on 09/20/2006 12:19:54 PM PDT by Badray (While defending the land called America, we must also be sure to preserve the Idea called America.)
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