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To: Steel Wolf
But then again, what kind of society keeps trained torturers on call?

A society that is under threat from and has troops engaged in war with a determined enemy, that's what kind.

11 posted on 09/19/2006 5:58:35 AM PDT by prairiebreeze (No religion demands so much of it's members and so little of itself, than islam.)
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To: prairiebreeze
But then again, what kind of society keeps trained torturers on call?

A society that is under threat from and has troops engaged in war with a determined enemy, that's what kind.

The question is both rhetorical and loaded. You could as easily ask 'What kind of society keeps 3000 nuclear weapons on hand' or 'What kind of society shoots bow and arrow wielding natives for their land'?

Earth is a rough place, and human history is a bloody, uncompromising affair. We decide what we think the times require, and act accordingly. We want to be a moral society that can look itself in the mirror, and can be an inspiration to others. Still, anyone that is alive today is here because their ancestors weren't above slitting throats to make sure they came out on top.

Where we draw the line on physical coercion is tricky, and the moral considerations for or against aren't as simple as people make them out to be. That's all I'm saying.

14 posted on 09/19/2006 6:07:38 AM PDT by Steel Wolf (As Ibn Warraq said, "There are moderate Muslims but there is no moderate Islam.")
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