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To: Truthsearcher
But comparatively speaking, given equal generation immigrant, the Asian immigrant will always be proportionated more self-identified with the country of his origin, and this is probably true for 3 or 4 generations before this effect becomes negligible.

And I probably wouldn't disagree with you. And I don't expect America at large to be as cheerful and supportive of Chinese New Years as St. Patrick's day (despite the fact that I've noted that observation on this thread).

Rather, is that subtle difference, sufficient enough, when similar actions are conducted (e.g., European Americans welcoming visitors from their nation of heritage vs Chinese Americans welcoming visitors from their nation of heritage), that brands one group as warm and friendly (i.e., those of European heritage) and the other group as traitorous to America (Chinese or other non-European)? That subtle difference, it appears you are saying, is enough to fully justify the attitudes of a certain segment of the American population that is reflected by the visceral early responses on this thread.

129 posted on 02/08/2008 9:18:09 AM PST by ponder life
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To: ponder life

It’s not subtle in the first couple of generations.

The CIA knows this. A couple of years ago I read an article about how they are shocked at how effective the PRC agents are at convincing first and even second generation Chinese-American scientists into becoming spies for them.

When I read that I laughed. I wasn’t shocked at all. if you self identify as Chinese to begin with, how hard would it be to convince you to work for the govt of China rather than the US.

The Chinese have an old saying: “not of our blood, his heart will ultimately betray us.” That is their attitude. That’s why culturally the Chinese don’t adopt children in the same numbers that western cultures do, that they are particularly confounded that Americans would go to China and adopt Chinese children. They don’t understand why we’d do it, because they would NEVER do that themselves.

All this is to say that this isn’t just about whether somebody celebrates St Patrick’s day or the Chinese New Year. In the long run who cares, that’s not important. But these cultural attitudes affect more than the the holidays we celebrate, it affects actions that are far more important. Even our national security. And frankly, although I don’t agree with all the aspect of the Japanese Internment Camps during WWII (such as property confiscation, etc). There were legitimate reasons why we did it, and we didn’t do it to the same degree to German and Italian Americans, because the level of threat from those groups are not equal, and not because “America was racist against Asians”.


131 posted on 02/08/2008 11:09:39 AM PST by Truthsearcher
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