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Drug can help prevent Type 2 diabetes
Seattle Post-Intelligencer ^ | September 16, 2006 | MARILYNN MARCHIONE AND MARIA CHENG

Posted on 09/17/2006 6:57:42 PM PDT by neverdem

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A Chip That Can Transfer Data Using Laser Light

Heart Attack Patient Dies In ER Waiting Room- Ruled a Homicide

Absence of chest pain in patients with suspected heart attack or angina does not signal a less severe condition

Patients with painless Acute Coronary Syndrome tended to be older, were more often women, and more often had diabetes and prior heart attacks. It may be that prior heart damage impairs pain perception due to disruption of sensory receptors, and that diabetes impairs pain perception, suggests Harry P. Selker, M.D., M.S.P.H., of the Tufts-New England Medical Center.

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41 posted on 09/17/2006 10:04:28 PM PDT by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: neverdem

"Fluid retention, congestive heart failure, and weight gain are known side effects of Avandia" when it's used to treat diabetes, Powers noted.

At first, it sounded promising...


42 posted on 09/17/2006 10:11:43 PM PDT by phantomworker ("A chicken doesn't stop scratching just because worms are scarce." Sofa king crazy.)
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To: neverdem
Previous studies have suggested that blockade of the renin–angiotensin system may prevent diabetes in people with cardiovascular disease or hypertension.

And other studies show that ARBs (angiotensin receptor blockers) are a part of a cure for diabetes, but only part.

43 posted on 09/17/2006 10:12:31 PM PDT by slowhandluke (It's hard work to be cynical enough in this age)
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To: muawiyah
Maybe if the fat, fat fatties would quick drinking sodas by the lake full and quit eating sugary snacks it may alleviate the need for drugs.

Exercise....carrots instead of Butterfingers?

44 posted on 09/17/2006 10:13:18 PM PDT by zarf
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To: neverdem
Are you aware of
Dr Ron Rosedale MD ?

45 posted on 09/17/2006 10:16:28 PM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 144:1 Praise be to YHvH, my Rock, who trains my hands for war, my fingers for battle.)
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To: slowhandluke; All
And other studies show that ARBs (angiotensin receptor blockers) are a part of a cure for diabetes, but only part.

I glanced at the thread. I didn't notice anything about ARBs. After looking, I found Single versus dual blockade of the renin-angiotensin system (angiotensin-converting enzyme inhibitors and/or angiotensin II receptor blockers) in diabetic nephropathy.

"RECENT FINDINGS: Angiotensin-converting enzyme inhibitors are now a first-line therapy for patients with type 1 diabetes and diabetic nephropathy, whereas in patients with type 2 diabetes, angiotensin II receptor blockers(ARBs) have been shown to protect the kidney." Type 2 Diabetics, heads up.

The effect on blood sugar makes more sense when you appreciate steroid hormones are involved as in the Renin Angiotensin Aldosterone System.

46 posted on 09/17/2006 11:17:12 PM PDT by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: XeniaSt

No. Thanks for the link.


47 posted on 09/17/2006 11:18:13 PM PDT by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: phantomworker
"Fluid retention, congestive heart failure, and weight gain are known side effects of Avandia" when it's used to treat diabetes, Powers noted.

At first, it sounded promising...

I forgot to mention ramipril is just the ticket for congestive heart failure, the salient feature of which is fluid retention and weight gain, regardless of etiology.

Personally, go diet and exercise first. The editorial agrees with me. BTW, adverse effects don't happen to everyone, but they might happen to anyone due to genetic predisposition.

48 posted on 09/17/2006 11:32:08 PM PDT by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: Thinkin' Gal

INHO, the Omega 3's and Vitamin D will end up being the superstar nutrition discoveries of the century.

There is a third... that is still undergoing alot of testing. A very simple mineral that most of us are deficient in.
Magnesium.


49 posted on 09/18/2006 1:47:43 AM PDT by djf (Some people say we evolved. I say "Some did, some didn't!")
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To: neverdem
Nothing on ARB? Ok, I was on speed-dial there and slipped a bit, that link was just to show that the Marshall Protocol does work for diabetes.

Look further around the site. The marshall protocol uses an ARB (benicar to be exact) plus antibiotics.

50 posted on 09/18/2006 5:04:09 AM PDT by slowhandluke (It's hard work to be cynical enough in this age)
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To: neverdem

Just went to the manufacturer's reports ~ that's always the best source.


51 posted on 09/18/2006 5:10:14 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Prophet in the wilderness
Or, sardines.

Fatty fish are good sources.

52 posted on 09/18/2006 5:11:19 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: JDoutrider
Hey, little article couple of weeks ago about ceyenne peppers ~ they did a controlled test and found they were knocking back insulin levels 30%.

I started having trouble again this year in early August ~ just as the fresh peppers were coming on the market. I usually pig-out on cheap, fresh peppers.

Had that problem the last couple of Sumers in fact. So, I cut out the peppers and was able to bring my blood sugar back into line within a couple of days.

Remember, lots of Type IIs have lower than normal insulin product, so loss of any of it other causes has to cause problems.

53 posted on 09/18/2006 5:14:21 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Thinkin' Gal
Yes, one of the advantages of being a diabetic is that death from skin cancer is dramatically reduced (due to a shortened lifspan).

I'll think of another advantage someday, Fur Shur.

54 posted on 09/18/2006 5:19:58 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: neverdem
""Fluid retention, congestive heart failure, and weight gain are known side effects of Avandia" when it's used to treat diabetes, Powers noted."

Enough said!

55 posted on 09/18/2006 5:23:54 AM PDT by verity (The MSM is comprised of useless eaters)
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To: zarf
Type II diabetes is hereditary. You can virtually abstain from carbohydrates and you'll still develop the problem.

What all of us do is deal with the symptoms ~

Can't recall when I had a soda, but I do recall the last time I walked a mile ~ like it was yesterday.

Gonna' do that today, too, and the day after that.

56 posted on 09/18/2006 5:29:34 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
Just went to the manufacturer's reports ~ that's always the best source.

I hope you were kidding. That's usually what's just in the Physician's Desk Reference which isn't much more than a compilation of product information slips printed for initial FDA approval. A hard copy of AHFS Drug Information can often be had for free, just last year's version, if you ask a hospital pharmacist after the start of the new year.

http://www.ashp.org/ahfs/print/ahfs-di.cfm

IMHO, the next best is DRUG FACTS AND COMPARISONS (LOOSE-LEAF)

57 posted on 09/18/2006 7:44:16 AM PDT by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: muawiyah
...and there doesn't seem to be any information on the net concerning the matter.

That's interesting. Maybe because it isn't true?

My Cerner-Multum Clinical Database shows no major or moderate interaction between metformin and rosiglitazone. In fact, in the rosiglitazone monograph, they say:

"Rosiglitazone is indicated as monotherapy. The drug is also indicated for use in combination with a sulfonylurea or metformin when diet, exercise, and rosiglitazone alone or diet, exercise and the single agent do not result in adequate glycemic control. For patients inadequately controlled with a maximum dose of a sulfonylurea or metformin, rosiglitazone should be added to, rather than substituted for, a sulfonylurea or metformin." [Emphasis mine]

58 posted on 09/18/2006 8:13:42 AM PDT by jammer
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To: neverdem

Damn, naming Facts just gave away the secret to the pharmacists' secret weapon. [grin]


59 posted on 09/18/2006 8:17:50 AM PDT by jammer
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To: redhead

That's how it lowers blood sugars, by preventing the GI tract from absorbing sugars. So, the drug worked in your child. Everything comes at a cost or compromise; inthis case the squirts. Such is Life.


60 posted on 09/18/2006 8:30:00 AM PDT by STD (Rough Sailing Directly Ahead)
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