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To: Torie; jwalsh07

Romney will rise to the top, imho. I was out of touch most of the week....how did Romney handle McCain on the torture issue?


555 posted on 09/17/2006 9:34:17 AM PDT by chiller (every time we call MSM "mainstream" we confirm their status. "Drive-by" is working nicely.)
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To: chiller; Torie; Pukin Dog

Romney basically said that those Rpeublicans breaking with the President on this issue are making a huge mistake. Romney is a very smart guy. McCain is gonna lose on this issue with the public at large and when the votes are finally counted. Romeny and President Bush will win this one.


581 posted on 09/17/2006 9:56:33 AM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: chiller

What I wish ONE time on one of these shows someone would say to one of the 4 Senator Stoodges

Senator.

Why do you want to redefine the Geneva Conventions protections of legal combatants to cover unlawful combatants?

Please define torture as defined by the Geneva Convention?

Please name for me three American foes who have obeyed the Geneva Conventions in their treatment of US Prisoners since we signed the conventions.

Humm, so you base your whole argument on a hypothetical future foe who will magically do what NONE of our previous foes have done and respect the rule of law?

Senator, if our foes respected the rule of law, under want circumstances do you ever image the US would have need to fight them?

Senator, name for me any US foe since the end of WW 1 who obeyed the rule of law in their treatment of US POWS?

This whole exercise was about codifying IN US LAW some strict definitions so the incredibly vague language in the Geneva Convention cannot be twisted by pettifrogning legal minds like the soon to be former Senator from SC can twist to manufacture more reason to try and rebuild the overly legalistic, terribly bureaucratic PC system that so utterly failed in the run up to 09-11-01.

That they would pull this childish grandstanding stunt THIS week of all weeks is positively surreal.

IF this was about principals the 4 Senate stooges could of talked to WH house to work out their concerns. That they did NOT shows this has NOTHING at all to do with principal and EVERYTHING to do with grandstanding for the Cameras.

Just another example of the "My Ego over all Things" mindset of the Old Senators club. What a fool Lindsey is to think he can hook his star to their failed wagon! The old farts in the US Senate simply cannot actually set aside their egos and get something done! Oh no! That would require them to actually stand WITH the President on something. And if they stand WITH President Bush, they alienate the only people who can stand them, the Junk Media elitist. What they do NOT realize is that love ONLY extends to them as long as they are a tool to beat on Conservatives with. The 2nd it is a choice between them and any Democrat, the Junk Media elite will eat this RINO clown posse alive.

So instead we get this pathetically twisted, out right fraudulent rationalization from the 4 Senate Stooges to manufacture some PR campaign paper over their fundamental political cowardice. What they do not realize is they have just destroyed any chance of any higher office ever.
Republicans are not Democrats. The Old Boy's club has drawn all the wrong conclusions from watching Clinton. They think they can do what ever they want and we just have to take it. What they fail to realize is Republicans have no battered party syndrome problem like the Democrats have. They have shown more then once they are perfectly willing and able to tell the party elders to get out of the way.

The Republican bench is so vibrate and vigorous there are plenty of alternatives out here we can pick from in 2008. Contrary to the "conventional wisdom" of the Junk Media there are lots of other choices for Republicans to pick in 2008 All McCain and his posse did this week was write themselves right off the winning team.


673 posted on 09/17/2006 12:10:03 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Ann Coulter: "I love Freepers!" Told to Freeper eeevil Conservative)
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