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Childless Russian families to pay taxes for their social inaction
Pravda ^ | Sept. 15 | Dmitry Sudakov

Posted on 09/15/2006 6:26:23 AM PDT by Bushwacker777

"Deputy Chairman of the State Duma Committee for Health Protection, Nikolai Gerasimenko, suggested the introduction of childlessness tax to improve the demographic situation in Russia.

“It is about time we should think about childlessness tax. If you do not want to think about your social duty for your fatherland than you will have to pay for it,” Gerasimenko said. The official added that State Duma deputies were currently considering the issue about the introduction of such a tax in Russia. As soon as deputies think the idea through, the law-makers will develop an adequate document on the matter. "

(Excerpt) Read more at english.pravda.ru ...


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KEYWORDS: bigbrother; birthrs; communism; nannystatism; russia; socialengineering; taxes
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Now of course Bush seems to think the answer to low birthrates and future labor shortages in the USA is to open the border with Mexico and the solution to Europe's demographic crisis is to have Turkey join the EU ...but then there are leaders who truly think about their country's future in terms that might promote traditional family models.
1 posted on 09/15/2006 6:26:23 AM PDT by Bushwacker777
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To: Bushwacker777
I don't recall the President ever discussing declining birthrates.

Thanks for the straw man.

And punishing people who don't have children is silly - not only are some people physically unable to have children, but telling selfish people that they will be punished for not having children will result in a poisonous environment for the children that result.

Far better than punishments would be incentives to encourage people to have children and to encourage families with children to have even more children.

2 posted on 09/15/2006 6:29:52 AM PDT by wideawake ("The nation which forgets its defenders will itself be forgotten." - Calvin Coolidge)
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To: Bushwacker777

This is absurd and obscene.


3 posted on 09/15/2006 6:29:53 AM PDT by CAWats (Post to Free Republic without knowing HTML. Click my name.)
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To: Bushwacker777

Russian population growth rate has been so low for so long, a crisis.
Huge scandal that the government hasn't done much more to encourage children. Whatever is done now is long overdue.


4 posted on 09/15/2006 6:29:54 AM PDT by Mount Athos
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To: Mount Athos


lotsa 1/2 Russian kids being born in the US though...small comfort for Putin....


5 posted on 09/15/2006 6:31:21 AM PDT by in hoc signo vinces ("Houston, TX...a waiting quagmire for jihadis. American gals are worth fighting for!")
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To: Bushwacker777

Meanwhile thousands of Russian children languish in poor orphanages, waiting for foreigners to adopt them. Place the kids in the childless families.


6 posted on 09/15/2006 6:32:15 AM PDT by Sender (Earth: 4.5 billion years old. Islam: 1400 years old. Nukes: 61 years old. Stay tuned.)
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To: Bushwacker777
Nonsense. Utter nonsense.


7 posted on 09/15/2006 6:34:09 AM PDT by stm (Katherine Harris for US Senate!)
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To: Bushwacker777

Better the govt stop providing free abortions and start paying women to have and keep their kids.

I think many Russian woman choose to have multiple abortions rather than bear children with alcoholic men and live in tiny decrepit houses while working to support the entire family. At least that is what I observed in a remote area of Russia.

Not to mention the horrible state neglect of 600,000 children abandoned by parents or taken from alcoholics to be raised like wolves in stark institutions. Been there, seen them.


8 posted on 09/15/2006 6:34:33 AM PDT by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: wideawake

No? Well then what has Bush said about the situation? I do know that former Fed chairman Alan Greenspan said the answer to anticipated labor shortages was to open up more immigration. Many leaders in western democracies have adressed the problem of low birthrates -- why hasn't Bush? I'm left with the impression that his solution is just to fill the gaps with Mexican people who still believe in traditional families.

As for the morality of taxing single people more I'd suggest people look at the US tax system which does this very thing and was instituted for the reasons that the Russian leaders are suggesting. Our leaders wanted to reward families who sacrifice to bring up the next generation of Americans. It's the one thing I like about our tax system.


9 posted on 09/15/2006 6:35:34 AM PDT by Bushwacker777
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To: in hoc signo vinces

Look at all the websites of beautiful Russian women looking for American husbands. Ever see one for beautiful American women seeking Russian husbands? Pretty telling don't you think?


10 posted on 09/15/2006 6:37:23 AM PDT by stm (Katherine Harris for US Senate!)
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Couple To Face Murder Charges

BATAVIA -- Foster parents accused of leaving a developmentally disabled 3-year-old bound up in a closet for two days where he died were indicted Wednesday by a Clermont County grand jury with murder, more serious counts than they had faced previously....

Authorities have said the Carrolls took in the special needs child to reap the payments for his foster care....


11 posted on 09/15/2006 6:38:31 AM PDT by steve-b (The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.)
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To: CAWats
This is absurd and obscene.

...and should be met with utter condom-nation.

12 posted on 09/15/2006 6:39:22 AM PDT by TruthShallSetYouFree (Abortion is to family planning what bankruptcy is to financial planning.)
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To: Bushwacker777

That's another reason we need to switch to the FairTax, to eliminate this sort of pernicious totalitarianism.


13 posted on 09/15/2006 6:39:31 AM PDT by steve-b (The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.)
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To: Bushwacker777
So...you think it is okay for the arm of government, at the point of a gun, to make you pay a tax because you and your spouse either choose not to have children, or can't?

Sorry, but that cure is worse than the ill.

Shake of that totalitarian tendancy Ivan.

As to your points regarding Bush...pure hyperbole. I do not agree with his actions as regards the border, but that does not mean I am going to ascribe them to whatever my pet peave is at the time.

14 posted on 09/15/2006 6:41:10 AM PDT by Jeff Head (www.dragonsfuryseries.com)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

freeriders


15 posted on 09/15/2006 6:41:39 AM PDT by Toby06 (Hydrogen is not a fuel source! Hydrogen is an energy storage method, like a battery.)
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To: TruthShallSetYouFree

Whoever proposed this should be thrown in a rubber room.


16 posted on 09/15/2006 6:41:44 AM PDT by CAWats (Post to Free Republic without knowing HTML. Click my name.)
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To: silverleaf
"Not to mention the horrible state neglect of 600,000 children abandoned by parents or taken from alcoholics to be raised like wolves in stark institutions"

My niece and her husband adopted a boy when he was 10 from one of those institutions. He's won't tell them what he went through, but only says he never wants to go back to Russia again.

17 posted on 09/15/2006 6:42:28 AM PDT by Texan
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To: Bushwacker777
As for the morality of taxing single people more I'd suggest people look at the US tax system which does this very thing

There is actually a marriage penalty, which is sometimes reversed by having enough dependents.

That's not much of an incentive.

18 posted on 09/15/2006 6:43:03 AM PDT by wideawake ("The nation which forgets its defenders will itself be forgotten." - Calvin Coolidge)
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To: TruthShallSetYouFree

Strange, Russia and the rest of Europe is Christian, the Bible promotes having large families, and the only Christians I know of who still hold to Bible teachings on this matter are Amish, Mormons, some very conservative Catholics and some fragments of fundamentalist Christians.

NARAL, the ACLU and NOW are not the ones who should be blamed for the current demographic crisis in the west, it's the so-called leaders of Christianity who have sold out to humanistic goals and prefer not offending the people who make the huge houses of worship possible -- who might take offense if you gave a sermon against birth control or even divorce.


19 posted on 09/15/2006 6:43:58 AM PDT by Bushwacker777
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To: Bushwacker777
And I say Gerasimenko's got the right idea.

NOW! ALL YOU FREEPERS:

Out with the contraceptives.

Get back in bed!

And DO YOUR DUTY!

Get busy! Time's a wasting. Next year, I want every one of you to have a little Freeper to show for your efforts! All right.

ON YOUR MARK!

GET SET!

GO!


20 posted on 09/15/2006 6:45:50 AM PDT by Savage Beast ( 9/11 was never repeated thanks to President George Bush.The Democrat Party is The Party of Treason)
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