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Victor Davis Hanson: Those Saudi Students. It’s not irrational to be wary of this deal
NRO ^ | September 15, 2006 | Victor Davis Hanson

Posted on 09/15/2006 4:42:32 AM PDT by Tolik

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1 posted on 09/15/2006 4:42:34 AM PDT by Tolik
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To: neverdem; Lando Lincoln; quidnunc; .cnI redruM; yonif; SJackson; dennisw; monkeyshine; Alouette; ...


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2 posted on 09/15/2006 4:43:19 AM PDT by Tolik
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To: Tolik

I don't think we need to allow 15,000 Saudi students to come to our universities. We shouldn't be allowing any immigration- even temporary- from any of these Arab dictatorships, kingdoms and mullocracies...

If we had any choice, we shouldn't be buying their oil either, but we are unable to support our own energy needs.

I suspect the oil problem influences our behavior re: the immigration issue.


3 posted on 09/15/2006 4:54:57 AM PDT by RobFromGa (The FairTax cult is like Scientology, but without the movie stars)
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To: Tolik

This should be shouted through the airwaves. Where are all the weenies who were scared of Dubai Ports Corporation handling container ships?


4 posted on 09/15/2006 4:57:52 AM PDT by maica (9/11 was not “the day everything changed”, but the day that revealed how much had already changed.)
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To: maica

I don't agree with him on this, and he should consider returning to the tradition of "in loco parentis" on college campuses limiting decadence to benefit both American and foreign students.


5 posted on 09/15/2006 5:18:22 AM PDT by ClaireSolt (Have you have gotten mixed up in a mish-masher?)
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US schools compete for Saudi students -not yet able do effective background checks on applicants

6 posted on 09/15/2006 5:20:04 AM PDT by SJackson (The Pilgrims—Doing the jobs Native Americans wouldn't do!)
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To: Tolik

They are letting our enemies take over our nation - WITHOUT A FIGHT1


7 posted on 09/15/2006 5:24:02 AM PDT by RoadTest (- - - for without victory there is no survival. -Winston Churchill)
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No problem. We can count on McCain, Warner and Graham to pass a law protecting us from these people.


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8 posted on 09/15/2006 5:30:56 AM PDT by aculeus
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To: RobFromGa
we are unable to support our own energy needs.

No,we're not.

Unwilling, yes.

Unable? No.

9 posted on 09/15/2006 5:34:11 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Something is happening here but you don't know what it is, do you, Mr. Jones?)
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To: Jim Noble

I could have been clearer...

we are unable to support our own energy needs AT THE PRESENT TIME.


10 posted on 09/15/2006 5:35:59 AM PDT by RobFromGa (The FairTax cult is like Scientology, but without the movie stars)
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To: Tolik
They can get here by going through an open society, just as easily as from Saudi Arabia. Maybe more so.

Yet of the Saudi students: But don’t expect millions of us to like it — and don’t expect us to worry whether our anger and concern seem illiberal.

And that has... nothing to do with the hysterical and irrational fear present in the reaction to the Dubai port deal

When you don't like it that's apparently illiberal, when the other guy doesn't like it that's hysterical and irrational.

Sorry, no sale. The Saudis will make damn sure those boys don't do anything that results in an American invasion and Ceegar Guy rolling up to the Meccan meteorite with a winch and a glint in his good eye. The open society guys (Dubai ports deal) are too busy making money (nttawwt) to do any serious quality control on the people they send here.

11 posted on 09/15/2006 5:51:22 AM PDT by Graymatter (TV-free and clean for 3 years, 2 months.)
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To: ClaireSolt

Not sure what part of the article you disagree with?
Of course more constraint of over-the-top behavior on university campi would be desirable. That unrestrained sexual acting out has been practically forced on our kids is a problem that I pray will be resolved without the pendulum swinging all the way to the hajib and burka.

I live a few blocks from a 150 year old Jesuit College that has been co-ed for 35 years. Professors who speak out about the girls' behavior are shunned.
The girls dress very provocatively and act assertively. "Hooking-up" sex is ordinary. The boys look wary and diminished in their world of such female dominance.


12 posted on 09/15/2006 5:56:04 AM PDT by maica (9/11 was not “the day everything changed”, but the day that revealed how much had already changed.)
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To: kabar; MNJohnnie

Ping


13 posted on 09/15/2006 6:01:33 AM PDT by Phsstpok (Often wrong, but never in doubt)
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To: aculeus

You left out my own senator, the wonderful (full sarcasm) Susan Collins.


14 posted on 09/15/2006 6:02:02 AM PDT by metesky ("Brethren, leave us go amongst them." Rev. Capt. Samuel Johnston Clayton - Ward Bond- The Searchers)
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To: Tolik
I admire VDH, but he is wrong on this one. We need more Saudis to be exposed to Western values and ideas. When the Saudi economy went into the tank in the 90s and per capita income dropped from around 28K to 6K, the Saudis started constructing more domestic universities, which really taught nothing except religion. This further isolates the Saudis from the rest of the world.

Many of the current Saudi leaders have been educated in Europe and the US. It is a good thing. Also, the reality is that the worldly Saudis live two distinct lives, one in the Kingdom and the other while living in the West. The only way we are going to influence what is going on in the Kingdom is to encourage more contact with the West.

15 posted on 09/15/2006 6:11:58 AM PDT by kabar
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And if we must let in thousands of students from the Middle East, why not the children of those kindred brave souls fighting for democracy in Iraq and Afghanistan?

This incisive question has no legitimate answer.

16 posted on 09/15/2006 6:16:11 AM PDT by humint (...err the least and endure! --- VDH)
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To: Tolik

As long as the DimoRats keep us dependant on Arab oil, our national security will be in much jeopardy.


17 posted on 09/15/2006 6:37:58 AM PDT by AxelPaulsenJr (Keep your friends close and your enemies closer.)
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I want this guy for President and I want it NOW!


18 posted on 09/15/2006 6:47:51 AM PDT by steel_resolve (Do you know what a bigot is? Someone winning an argument with a liberal.)
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To: metesky
You left out my own senator, the wonderful (full sarcasm) Susan Collins.

Deepest sympathy.

19 posted on 09/15/2006 6:57:47 AM PDT by aculeus
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To: Tolik

Bump.


20 posted on 09/15/2006 8:08:15 AM PDT by AmericaUnite
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