And what exactly would you expect from Congressman Moran?
Posted on 09/14/2006 1:57:53 PM PDT by WmShirerAdmirer
Katie, Who Shouted Down Jim Moran
September 13, 2006
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RUSH: We have Katie on the phone from Arlington, Virginia. Hi, Katie, nice to have you with us.
CALLER: Hello, Mr. Limbaugh, how are you?
RUSH: Couldn't be better. Thank you.
CALLER: Yesterday you had talked about the Jim Moran rally in Arlington for 9/11, and you had mentioned the screaming girl, and that was me, and I just wanted to give you some more context to why I had such a violent outbreak.
RUSH: That's fabulous. Let me play the sound bite that we had yesterday. It's Internet quality, but you will hear a woman who now we know is Katie interrupt Moran, and then she's gonna give context. Here's the bite that happened. It was Monday night in Arlington, Virginia.
MORAN: There are more people around the world who hate America and what they think it stands for than even life itself. But let us resolve --
KATIE: My brother died on 9/11, you creep. Don't make this political!
RUSH: All right. So you said, this isn't political, and I got an e-mail from some guy who said he heard you say that and also that there were people in the crowd telling you and others to be quiet, that what happened to you and others who lost people on 9/11 "weren't important," that "let the congressman speak." Is that true, too?
CALLER: That is true. I had actually said -- I was really upset because almost within less than a minute, I mean maybe 20 seconds after he got on the stage (he started 30 minutes late, too, which I thought was incredibly disrespectful.) But when he was finally on the stage, about 20 seconds into it, well, first of all he started saying that he was so proud of Arlington because we all came together and we all worked together and we were all one, and then he said, "But on the national stage we haven't been as successful," and then he went into international: talking about Iraq, literally within 20 seconds of his comments, and I just felt my blood starting to boil. I just wanted him to be a generic politician. I wanted him to say a few kind words about the dead and let me go about my day.
That's really all I wanted from him, and all I expected from him, but when he started talking about the war or basically just how hated we are, I just felt my blood boil, and I just burst out, I said, "My brother died on 9/11, you creep. Don't make this political," and I regretted it. I felt so embarrassed for having had such a violent outburst, but I just could not stand it. He was so repugnant; he was so disgusting. Like I said, he started late. He was just rambling about the war, and I just felt like, where's the mention of the victims of that day? It was the fifth anniversary. Some mention of the victims would have been nice.
RUSH: Did somebody actually say to you, or to somebody else that you heard, it's been said to, "what happened to the victims is not important, and you're not important; let the congressman speak"?
CALLER: Yes. After I had turned to go, a man grabbed my arm -- and, in retrospect I should have shoved him away but he grabbed my arm. He said, "You're not important. Your brother is not important. Let the congressman speak," and at that point I started crying and I just fled.
RUSH: Why did you go in the first place?
CALLER: Ironically because I didn't want any drama at the Pentagon. I feel very vulnerable, I feel very -- I still feel very sad, I don't feel like I've moved on a whole lot. And I just wanted something extremely low-key, and this memorial was near my house. And I thought, you know, I'll just walk over there, it will be very low-key --
RUSH: Is Moran your congressman?
CALLER: He is. And fun-ily enough, my boyfriend had actually written two letters before this, telling him he's gotta keep the partisan stuff out of it because he sent out these newsletters where all he does is rant about Republicans. And my boyfriend, John, has actually written him and said, you know, you represent all people in the district, not just Democrats, and try to keep that out of it, but this is just the final straw. I just felt so like he's just absolutely worthless.
RUSH: Well, have you voted for him, Katie, before?
CALLER: No, no, I've never voted for him. I vote Republican.
RUSH: Well, that's good. But I think, you know, there's always good in everything that happens if you dig deep enough to find it, and in this I would say the good is that you and probably a lot of other people found out just who Moran and his cohorts are. To have a 9/11 memorial which, by the way, Democrats will soon thereafter complain about the president turning political, your congressman goes on and starts talking about how there are more people around the world who hate America and what they think it stands for than even life itself. This guy has a hate-America problem himself. He's probably talking about himself and projecting it to all these other people.
CALLER: Well, I certainly feel like his only reason for life at this point seems to be to disparage the president and our foreign policy, and I felt like that was just the wrong place. I didn't want to hear that. I just wanted something simple. I wanted something about the victims, and I certainly didn't want to be told that my brother wasn't important.
RUSH: What was the reaction of others in the crowd, not to what happened to you, but to what he was saying overall?
CALLER: I think for the most people were pretty respectful. They were just standing still. I heard a little grumbling a little bit closer to him, but, you know, I didn't really see any outbursts or anything, and when he got to the part about we're so hated in the world, I just lost it.
RUSH: I don't blame you. I'm glad you did. What you did was not a violent outburst because all you did was utter words. Suburban Washington is becoming -- has been for a while, it's getting even worse -- extreme liberal, very much so.
CALLER: Oh, yeah, during the election campaign, I would walk down the street and there were literally Kerry people just on every corner, and I kept thinking, "What happened to my little town, my little conservative Virginia town?" But it's not like that anymore. It's extremely liberal.
RUSH: Well, Katie, you went out there and you expressed your point of view, and there's no reason you shouldn't have. He didn't even acknowledge you, right? He just went on?
CALLER: He just went on, yeah. But a couple of people were mad at me for disrupting. Like I said, the guy told me that I wasn't important and my brother wasn't important. But it was clear, he was exactly right. We weren't important there, and certainly to Jim Moran we were not important. What was important was getting his message out, which is that America sucks, and Iraq was a mistake.
RUSH: Right, and so, when John Boehner says it's apparent that some Democrats are more important or more concerned with protecting terrorists than they are with the American people, these people go nuts -- the Democrats go crazy -- and act totally offended and outraged, and yet guys like Moran are out there talking about how terrorists hate the country and others hate the country, and it's our fault that they do and they wonder why they come under such criticism, and I'm sure that he was probably a little stunned in the crowd that he drew to have a reaction like yours, too.
CALLER: Well, I could not be quiet, and you're absolutely right. I mean, he's such a hypocrite, all of them are it seems like these days. After 9/11 I just wanted a very strong united force against the people who did this to my brother and the 3,000 other people. That's all I wanted, and I haven't got that. I haven't got anything.
RUSH: No, you're not going to get it when you go to hear Jim Moran speak. Katie, I'm going to tell you, Jim Moran is part of this fringe -- I don't even know how fringe it is, it's becoming more and more mainstream -- in the Democratic Party who really think George Bush is responsible for this, who think George Bush is worse than the terrorists, and they have outrage, and I think they've descended into the stages of near insanity, and this is reflected in the kind of things that you had to hear.
CALLER: But don't you agree...?
RUSH: You're not going to go to another Moran rally expecting anything to hear about unity?
CALLER: No. But I mean don't you agree with me that on 9/11, you should at least spend a couple of minutes, maybe just a fraction of the time talking about 9/11 and the victims?
RUSH: They can't do that. I agree with you, but politically --
CALLER: Why not? Why can't they do that?
RUSH: Because the terrorists of 9/11 are not the enemy, Bush is the enemy as far as these people are concerned. I'm not joking. I'm not exaggerating. I said yesterday at least one day a year, they have to admit that it happened. The Democrats, Katie, are trying to construct scenarios in the American people's imagination where 9/11 didn't happen or that it was just a mere little episode that doesn't represent a war, that the real hatred for this country didn't start until Bush went into Iraq and that Bush represents the problem. So they come out and start getting into all this, you know, feigned unity and so forth, they have to admit we've gotta common enemy, and they don't. The enemy to them is Bush -- and I am not, again, exaggerating, and that's why you didn't hear him doing it.
CALLER: You're probably correct, but also I figured out why you had said that they had to admit at least one day of the year that 9/11 happened, and I figured that out. The same thing with Katrina. They're congratulating themselves on their coverage of 9/11. They're not really mourning that day. They're not thinking about the victims.
RUSH: Exactly, very perceptive. The television coverage was all about the personal remembrances of all the TV people that worked that day.
CALLER: Right. Nobody talks about the victims. And you know, one thing I wanted to do, I wanted to get in Jim Moran's face and said give me one name, besides Todd Beamer, give me one name of somebody who died on 9/11, and I just don't think he can do it. I don't think he gets the fact that this is a -- you know, they were individuals, they are real people who died.
RUSH: And they were --
CALLER: -- Todd Beamer --
RUSH: Not only that, they were the essence of innocence. Those people died. The people in the World Trade Center and the two airplanes that hit the trade center and the Pentagon, those people died without the slightest idea of what had happened. Can you imagine being in the trade center after the planes hit and you have no clue? I mean, you might know that airplanes have hit. I don't know if you've got power up there, but they -- especially they didn't know why us, why us? They had literally no clue, they were the essence of innocence, like a newborn baby or a baby in the womb, the essence of innocence. They went to their deaths dumbfounded.
CALLER: That's true. I don't know if you listened to the last phone call of Kevin Cosgrove, he was in the World Trade Center, and he's asking the dispatcher, what happened? Where did the fire start, what happened? And she doesn't tell him. But he had no clue what had happened to him. These people were completely innocent. They were real victims, and that's another thing, terrorism did not end on 9/11. It happens today. I mean, I wake up with this hole in my heart that just will not go away. I mean, it's every day.
RUSH: It didn't start on 9/11. That's another thing. The Democrats want you to believe that the war on terror started either when we went to Iraq or terrorism started that day, but of course during the nineties, that was a peachy keen decade, nothing really of any consequence happened there. Well, I'm glad you got this lesson. I was going to ask you if you didn't vote for Moran, you obviously know who he is, and you know what the Democrats have been saying for three years. How could you not have known or been a pretty good guesser as to what was going to come out of his mouth anyway?
CALLER: Because I thought that he had a little bit of human decency and talk about the victims of 9/11. I mean yesterday was traumatic for me -- I'm sorry, 9/11/06 was traumatic for me, it was five years. I thought, "Okay, even politicians have to have a heart. They have to put this aside and say, 'Yes, it was terrible. It was a travesty and an atrocity what happened to those people,'" but he didn't. I mean, I was stunned. It was like he was a robot. He just got up there, within ten seconds launched into his anti-war tirade, and I was just stunned. I try to give Democrats at least the benefit of the doubt. I try to believe that they at least have a point of view that they're trying to express and trying to live by. But I just think they're creeps now. I know that's horrible, but --
RUSH: No, no, no, no, no. Katie, you're a good person. You held out all kinds of hope and you had an unbridled optimism expecting certain things going into this, and I know you're Republican. You voted Republican, as you say, but for those of you who have listened to Katie in this phone call, I think this is just a microcosm of the things that are happening around and across the country. People are slow to assume that Americans, some Americans would actually not be interested in victory in a war. I don't want to believe that. But the more the Democrats talk and the more these things happen, more and more people who don't want to believe it are confronted with it and have no choice, as in Katie in Arlington. Katie, it's a great call. Thank you so much for trying to get through.
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RUSH: Say, Katie, if you're still out there and all the rest of you, a couple of stories from our Jim Moran archive. Jim Moran, congressman, Virginia. "Representative Jim Moran, Virginia Democrat," April 12th, 2000 is the date of this story, "now says he may press charges against the eight-year-old boy who allegedly tried to steal the congressman's car outside an Alexandria Recreation Center. According to Moran, the boy claimed to have a gun in his pocket and threatened to use it when he demanded Moran's car keys last Friday. On Tuesday Moran gave his side of the story on the Today Show, describing how shocked he was to be accosted by such a young child. Moran says he didn't blame the child; he blamed the parents for failing in their responsibility to teach their son right from wrong.
"As it turns out, the boy's parents blame Moran for the incident. They filed a formal complaint accusing Moran of attacking their son after the boy told the congressman he liked his car. He grabbed my little boy, and that's not right, said Alonzo Griffin in an interview with the Washington Times. Moran says he grabbed the boy after the child demanded his car keys and threatened to shoot him. Moran says he carried the child into the rec center and called the cops. The child did not have a gun. The Washington Times reports that several witnesses saw a beet-red Moran carrying the boy, yelling and cursing. At first Moran didn't intend to press charges but now he says he may change his mind.
"'I had hoped that this boy would learn that this is not acceptable behavior but if the parents are not going to teach him that this is not acceptable behavior, then maybe the courts will.' The boy told the Washington Times he didn't do anything wrong, says it's the congressman who threatened him. 'He choked me and then cussed me. I thought he was going to kidnap me or kill me. All I told him was that I liked his car.'" Now, there's something missing in this story, is there not? What is the race of the little boy? Yeah, the little boy, eight-year-old black boy admiring Moran's car, and Moran assumes he's going to steal it and then tells the story about the kid threatening him with a gun, when he had no gun. Second story. This is from June 4th of 2004: "Longtime advisor to Congressman Jim Moran has lodged about the most damaging allegation that could be made about the congressman from northern Virginia at this point in the reelection campaign, that he heard him make an anti-Semitic remark.
"Last night the seven-term congressman said he's stupefied at the allegation by his former strategerist and pollster, Alan Secrest, and called it a flat-out lie. The dispute marks another unpredictable turn in the career of the Washington region's most talked about congressman. On Tuesday, eighth district Democratic primary, Moran faces a challenge from Andrew Rosenberg, an Alexandria lawyer," and so forth, and apparently gone out and made anti-Semitic remarks according to a former advisor. Moran is not the epitome of virtue and morality, regardless, and the evidence is clear that when Moran says something, it makes more sense to doubt his version of it, including when he says that more people hate this country than love life itself. There is plenty of evidence out there to doubt the honesty of Moran, Democrat Jim Moran, congressman, Democrat congressman from Virginia: "Dim" Jim Moran.
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The Democrats are completely clueless. They have no idea how America thinks.
My cousin almost died at the Pentagon on 9-11.
I am infuriated when the tinfoil hat crowd tries to tell me that the CIA / Bush / etc fired a missile into the Pentagon. After all, who am I gonna trust, all of those photos and my high-ranking cousin, or the people who really "know" what happened?
He isn`t making it political. Moron is an anti-semite who supports the animals who killed your brother.
So did my second-cousin. He is a civilian construction worker who was working on the remodelling at the Pentagon. He was supposed to be there at 8:30, but had a flat tire and was just pulling up to the gate when the plane hit.
I want to know who that jerk was that told Katie she or her brother "weren't important". I'd love to punch his chops, to put it mildly. Dirtbag. Yeah, 9/11, the WOT aren't important because they want us to go back to 9/10/01, and forget that there are Islamic terrorists who want all of us dead. *spit*
Democrats=Modern Day Stalinists. I don't think I will ever vote for another democrat again. Screw them.
Ugh. This loon is my Congressman. In the 2004 primary I was gonna vote for his primary opponent, till I found out that he was a former staffer for Ted Kennedy! Then Mor-on won the general too. Lotta libs here in Northern Virginia.
And what exactly would you expect from Congressman Moran?
This guy had better remain anonymous.
I didn't have any relatives or friends who died in the 9/11 attack but those who died were my countrymen both liberal and conservative alike.
The moonbats wouldn't behave nearly as bad as they do if elected officials didn't feed it in their desperate lust for power.
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Grr, grr, and more grr.
Idiots? Maybe. Stalinists? Probably not. Even the worst democrat wouldnt plan to use a PpSH on you for not meeting your production quota.
Katie, I am so sorry you had to go through that when you were expecting a decent memorial to those who died on 9-11. It's hard enough to face a day like that with your heart aching without someone like Moran kicking dirt on you.
Amen!
When I say "Stalinist", I am referring to their efforts to shut up the opposition. (Like trying to get "Path to 9/11" yanked off the air by threatening ABC's broadcast license.)
What that a*hole said to Katie can be construed so, "Shut up, the congressman knows more than you..is better than you."
They're worshippers of Uncle Joe. You'd be hard pressed to find a looney left liberal who doesn't admire Communism.
The attitude these people have is appalling. I stay away from liberals because they make me prone to violence. I'm afraid of what I might do to one of them if they treated me in a similar fashion.
That's all I would have needed.
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