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A a teenage I got a DWI. The police did not let me go to the bathroom until I took a breath test. (This was before the current Implied Consent laws). Under the vague nonsensical RINO terms of this bill, I was tortured.

Without a clear definition of what IS torture and what is not, this whole exercise is nothing but a Senate RINO PR game. Basically were have a choice. We can either trust Bush and the Pentagon to know what they need or we can a handful of grandstand Senators they know better.

Sorry but if it is a choice between trusting the President and Rummy or trusting THESE Grandstanding Senate RINOS, I trust the President a WHOLE lot more.

IF these three had real concerns they could of talked to the White House in private. That they did not indicates this has noting to do with their so called "principals" and everything to do with political Media theater

What is so stupid is McCain and Garham are cutting their political throats here. They are just both too arrogant to listen to anyone about why this grandstanding is so counterproductive to their asspirations. They will learn the error of their ways. It these kinds of issues that set a politicians image in stone for party activists. This is not something that can be forgiven or forgotten.

Sorry but if it is a choice between trusting the President and Rummy or trusting THESE Grandstanding Senate RINOS, I trust the President a WHOLE lot more.

I trust the guy that cuts my hair more than any of the above. In the end, they're all politicians.

Still, it's the Congress's job to make the laws, and the Exec's job to carry them out. Congress definitely needs to put down in writing what's permissable, especially considering the legal and political ramifications. That way, every interrogator will have a known legal standard to work with, and every Congressman can be held accountable if the practices are too harsh or too ineffective.

"Leaving it up to the President" is a losing proposition for us and our CIA agents. Bush won't be in office forever.

Future considerations notwithstanding, the fact is that until a new law is signed by Dubya the current rules against sharing CIA intel with al Qaeda "lawyers" stands.

I'm still holding out hope that dope L.Graham is playing rope-a-dope with the Senate (D)s just as he did to get the last two SCOTUS justices confirmed.