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A call to disarm
The Daily Toreador (Texas) ^ | 9/14/06 | Chris Kellerman

Posted on 09/14/2006 11:08:33 AM PDT by kiriath_jearim

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1 posted on 09/14/2006 11:08:33 AM PDT by kiriath_jearim
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To: kiriath_jearim

It's true. Everything IS bigger in Texas, including Kellerman's absurdity.


2 posted on 09/14/2006 11:09:52 AM PDT by kiriath_jearim
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The author approaches the Constitution with all the wisdom and insight of know-it-all seventh grader - and the column then degenerates from that peak.


3 posted on 09/14/2006 11:12:30 AM PDT by wideawake ("The nation which forgets its defenders will itself be forgotten." - Calvin Coolidge)
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What a worthless piece of garbage!!!! The intellectual dishonest and demonizations in this "article" abound!!

Next you'll hear a gun-lover say that if everybody had guns, we'd be much safer. Honestly, I have no idea how that works.

Really??? Read "More Guns, Less Crime" and get back to me. Reference all the genocides all over the world and get back to me. All of those people were disarmed.

What a worthless, trashy, ignorant piece of sorry leftist "journalism".
4 posted on 09/14/2006 11:12:53 AM PDT by M1Tanker (Proven Daily: Modern "progressive" liberalism is just National Socialism without the "twisted cross")
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Well I give the author this one point.....

At least he's smart enough to acknowledge that the 2nd DOES AFFIRM THE INDIVIDUAL RIGHT

That must be some kind of first for a gun grabber.....

5 posted on 09/14/2006 11:13:35 AM PDT by KenHorse
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You got it - the Second Amendment of the U.S. Constitution. Frankly, folks, I'm tired of it. We debate it all the time and get nowhere, so I say let's just remove it all together.

So since we get nowhere in our debate, let's just declare you the winner and repeal the second amendment? Is that it, Mr. Kellerman?

As a side note, Mr. Kellerman's arguments are weak and are based on some fantasy utopia world that will never exist on this earth.

6 posted on 09/14/2006 11:14:41 AM PDT by Pete
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Some truths are constant and timeless. One of those is that "the last defense against tyranny is an armed citizenry."


7 posted on 09/14/2006 11:15:01 AM PDT by SVTCobra03 (You can never have enough friends, horsepower or ammunition.)
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You got it - the Second Amendment of the U.S. Constitution. Frankly, folks, I'm tired of it. We debate it all the time and get nowhere, so I say let's just remove it all together.

Yeah, Kellerman, let's just remove the amendments we don't like. I vote to remove the First Amendment, too, so morons like you are not allowed to speak freely.

8 posted on 09/14/2006 11:15:21 AM PDT by TruthShallSetYouFree (Abortion is to family planning what bankruptcy is to financial planning.)
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When I discuss the Second Amendment with those who want gun control I always use the phrase "civil Rights". Who wants to be against civil rights? Leaves most of them slack jawed.


9 posted on 09/14/2006 11:17:39 AM PDT by Klondike
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Let's not forget what the founders said about "all other Persons" (black people) in the Constitution. In congressional representation, each non-white was counted as three-fifths of a person. Do we hate the founders for it? No.

I'm going to use short sentences and small words, just in case this author is reading this.

The non-slave-holding North wanted slaves to not count at all for the purposes of representation. The slave-holding South wanted slaves to count as full persons for the purposes of representation. Why? Because more heads to be counted equals more seats in the House of Representatives and more votes in the Electoral College. But since slaves don't vote, it's kind of unfair to let their heads be counted to the advantage of SLAVE OWNERS.

In the grand scheme of things, it would have been in the slaves' best interests to not count them at all for the purposes of representation. Counting them gave their masters more political power in Washington.

As for simply opposing this compromise on principle, the result would have been that the South would not have joined the Union. Result? Slavery stays! And we probably get invaded and annexed by someone, too.

This is leftist "thought" for you: they just can't get past the "I am NOT three-fifths of a person" emotive garbage and see what the actual causes and effects were. This is just a bumper-sticker slogan to them.

10 posted on 09/14/2006 11:18:00 AM PDT by Gordongekko909 (Mark 5:9)
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My guess is that he's never been to either the Alamo or San Jacinto. He would not have had the oppotunity to write what he did without the blood shed at either place. Maybe he needs to take up a new line of work?


11 posted on 09/14/2006 11:18:39 AM PDT by GW and Twins Pawpaw (Sheepdog for Five [My grandkids are way more important than any lefty's feelings!])
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While we're at it, there is tons of First Amendment jurisprudence. People disagree over that one vehemently. Why not drop that one too?


12 posted on 09/14/2006 11:18:58 AM PDT by Gordongekko909 (Mark 5:9)
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This guy should get out of this country!. How can he stand it here. Maybe we should get a pool together if he doesn't have the money...


13 posted on 09/14/2006 11:19:27 AM PDT by Edgerunner (The greatest impediment to world peace is the UN and the Peaceniks)
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This very convieniently omits the biggest arguement. What will keep criminals from having guns while good citizens disarm? Ask the people of Australia and England. The answer is absolutely nothing.

Taking guns away is simply another effort to make the masses dependent on the elites who think they know better. These elites will also never disarm.

Ask the students of Columbine, ask the family of the man who died because the police waited till evreything was over, would you have wanted some of the teachers to have had access to weapons?


14 posted on 09/14/2006 11:19:44 AM PDT by paguch
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To: Klondike

Actually, that's one of the best ways to "debate" a leftist and win. Use liberal buzzwords against them. They can't think past the emotive buzzwords anyway, so they won't be able to fight back. You win by default.


15 posted on 09/14/2006 11:20:19 AM PDT by Gordongekko909 (Mark 5:9)
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I'm not sure if the author is being satirical or not. Regardless, he ain't no Texan!!!!


16 posted on 09/14/2006 11:20:29 AM PDT by Rummyfan
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To: Gordongekko909

Once the Second Amendment goes, the First Amendment won't be far behind.
Or, the City of Malden has violated my civil rights by not having a militia for me to drill with.


17 posted on 09/14/2006 11:21:35 AM PDT by massgopguy (massgopguy)
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Is this creature in any way related to Arthur Kellerman, infamous abuser of statistics?
18 posted on 09/14/2006 11:22:41 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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Hunters should be able to hunt, and policemen should be able to protect our communities, but there are not many other reasons for people to have guns.

Yeah, right.


19 posted on 09/14/2006 11:23:10 AM PDT by oldleft
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Or, the City of Malden has violated my civil rights by not having a militia for me to drill with.

I don't know about that; all the Second says is that States CAN have militiae and the federal government can't stop them. It doesn't say that States HAVE to have them.

20 posted on 09/14/2006 11:23:46 AM PDT by Gordongekko909 (Mark 5:9)
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