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To: P-Marlowe
I wasnt denying it was political.

Rules which are obviously contrary to the Constitution and the Bill of Rights are unjust. This is where you and I differ - he is obligated as a Chaplin in his faith to practice according to his understanding of the bible. His allegiance is to a higher power asking him to refrain from performing this function is like asking a surgeon not to tell a patient the truth about their disease. If the military service does not want him to cite his specific faith then they should get rid of all preachers - talking about God without a personal passion is like eating food without taste buds.

What he did may have been against the rule but that does not mean it was not right. If you disagree, then surely you believe this country belongs to England.
76 posted on 09/14/2006 5:06:02 PM PDT by sasafras (("Licentiousness destroyes order, and when chaos ensues, the yearning for order will destroy freedom)
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To: sasafras

Rules which are obviously contrary to the Constitution and the Bill of Rights are unjust. This is where you and I differ - he is obligated as a Chaplin in his faith to practice according to his understanding of the bible. His allegiance is to a higher power asking him to refrain from performing this function is like asking a surgeon not to tell a patient the truth about their disease. If the military service does not want him to cite his specific faith then they should get rid of all preachers - talking about God without a personal passion is like eating food without taste buds."





It is clear you are enjoying busting these veterans chops, if you knew anything about Chaplains you wouldn't be making these ridiculous arguments.

Chaplains are clergy that work in institutions usually for the government. In the military they are still regular GIs that fill a job.

They are not preachers or evangelists, they are Chaplains and they operate within the rules and laws of such, and they sure as hell still fall under the military law they work under and administer.

I have a lot of respect for chaplains and requested an Airborne one for my wedding, I even requested a transfer to chaplain's assistant at one point, my favorite book is "Praise the Lord" by an Airborne chaplain.

These guys read the article, they understand the military and military chaplains, but you ignore the story, ignore their points and in a quiet hostile manner just keep misdirecting everything in a very obtuse manner.

As a fellow Christian I think you are very misdirected with your energies.


80 posted on 09/14/2006 5:51:59 PM PDT by ansel12 (Life is exquisite... of great beauty, keenly felt.)
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To: sasafras; BeHoldAPaleHorse; xzins; ansel12
This is where you and I differ - he is obligated as a Chaplin in his faith to practice according to his understanding of the bible.

His wearing his uniform to that political event was in direct violation of an order from his superior and in that sense was a direct violation of the scriptural command to follow the orders of those who are your employers or masters:

Servants, be obedient to them that are your masters according to the flesh, with fear and trembling, in singleness of your heart, as unto Christ; (Ephesians 6:5 KJV)

He was under both a military and scriptural duty to follow the orders of his commanding officer. He broke both the UCMJ rules and the biblical rules.

Had he gone to that event dressed as a civilian there would have been no problem. But then again he would have avoided all this publicity, which (obviously) is why he decided to violate the order in the first place. He was not drawing attention to Christ at that rally, he was drawing attention to himself.

81 posted on 09/14/2006 6:17:29 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (((172 * 3.141592653589793238462) / 180) * 10 = 30.0196631)
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