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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse

You did not answer my question. One more time - if you believe the military is correct in silencing the preacher because he is recognizing his faith (not just some general faith) and might offend a sailor who is Muslim, then should the atheist have the right to have the preacher silenced?

Its obvious that you answer this with a question because you know the logical truth.


73 posted on 09/14/2006 4:47:04 PM PDT by sasafras (("Licentiousness destroyes order, and when chaos ensues, the yearning for order will destroy freedom)
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To: sasafras
Its obvious that you answer this with a question because you know the logical truth.

What's obvious that you didn't even read the story! The arguments you are making are wholly irrelevant to the case. The guy's a flaming nutcake who disobeyed direct orders from his commanding officers in pursuit of his own self-serving, self-aggrandizing agenda. This has NOTHING to do with freedom of religion, free speech or political correctness run amok.

74 posted on 09/14/2006 5:02:06 PM PDT by leilani (Dimmi, dimmi se mai fu fatta cosa alcuna!)
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To: sasafras

The military doesn't allow certain types of prayer at mandatory formations. The prayer permitted are so vague as to be useless, and the military would do well to eliminate them.

If a chaplain believes he cannot offer a prayer without using Jesus's name, then he can decline to particpate in the event.

Some atheists want to eliminate the prayers entirely for the reason you suggest. I think, in the end, they will be successful - but the military reason for prohibiting certain prayers in mandatory formations is related to morale, not religion.

A commander might prohibit one prayer based on expected adverse reaction from a significant part of the formation, while allowing another. A heavily atheist troop formation might well have all prayers stopped.

This has some relation to perceived bias in favor of Christians in the military. I think that is totally false - if anything, I'm inclined to think the reverse - but it is up to COMMANDER judgment - not CHAPLAIN.

AND...this moron is being punished for wear of his uniform at a political event. It is DISHONEST of him to claim it was a religious service. He is a LIAR! and is bringing shame on Christ with his dishonest actions.

He should be booted out ASAP.


77 posted on 09/14/2006 5:15:22 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (I'm agnostic on evolution, but sit ups are from Hell!)
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To: sasafras
You did not answer my question.

I did. You just didn't like the answer.

One more time - if you believe the military is correct in silencing the preacher because he is recognizing his faith (not just some general faith) and might offend a sailor who is Muslim, then should the atheist have the right to have the preacher silenced?

Do you, as a Christian, have the right to force atheists to listen to your prayers and preaching? Does a Muslim have the right to force you to listen to his prayers and preaching?

97 posted on 09/15/2006 4:25:21 AM PDT by BeHoldAPaleHorse ( ~()):~)>)
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