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"Killer loved guns, hated people"
Toronto Star ^ | 9/14/06 | Phinjo Gombu

Posted on 09/14/2006 8:42:10 AM PDT by verum ago

Web diary on Goths website, photos show insight The last online posting by Kimveer Gill on a website that is a popular gathering place for Goths is eerily time-stamped 10:41 a.m. yesterday — about two hours before Gill was shot dead by Montreal police officers at Dawson College.

In it, Gill describes little of how the events of the day are going to unfold — instead focusing on how whiskey tastes so good in the morning. There's a throwaway footnote that when he calls people "niggahs" in my journals ... it doesn't have to do anything with their skin colour.

"I call white people niggahs too, it's just fun," he writes.

But in a detailed user profile, asked how he wants to die, he wrote in prescient foreshadowing of yesterday's bloody events in Montreal: "Like Romeo and Juliet — or in a hail of gunfire."

The website http://www.vampirefreaks.com, which the Star found last night, reveals Gill as a lonely, conflicted, self-described 25-year-old Goth freak from Montreal who hated authority figures like police, principals and teachers and singled out "jocks" for high school bullying.

(Excerpt) Read more at thestar.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: canada; dawsoncollege; kimveer; kimveergill; montreal; shooting
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"Life is a video game, you've got to die sometime"
Below his name is the epitaph that goes: "Lived fast died young. Left a mangled corpse.''
"Fatality666"

Terrible headline, disturbing article

1 posted on 09/14/2006 8:42:11 AM PDT by verum ago
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To: verum ago

I guess it's time to crack down on the outcasts again in a knee-jerk reaction to one of them blowing a gasket.


2 posted on 09/14/2006 8:44:46 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: verum ago
Goths were involved in the shootings? But they're so full of life, so fun-loving!

</sarc>

3 posted on 09/14/2006 8:50:21 AM PDT by randog (What the...?!)
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To: randog

This one is! :)


4 posted on 09/14/2006 8:52:06 AM PDT by To Hell With Poverty (The trouble with muslim immigrants: There can be no integration without inebriation!)
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To: antiRepublicrat

Gun control back on target
Montreal shooting likely to renew firearms debate
Tory government set to repeal gun registry plan in fall
Sep. 14, 2006. 01:00 AM
JIM BROWN
CANADIAN PRESS


OTTAWA—When Marc Lépine gunned down 14 women at Montreal's École Polytechnique 17 years ago, it sparked a political storm over gun control.

The shootings yesterday at Dawson College seem certain to do the same — whether or not anything that politicians do can really avert such tragedies.

The latest incident comes with the Conservative government poised to debate legislation this fall that would repeal the federal long-gun registry, in effect undoing some of the moves made by Ottawa in the wake of the Lépine slayings in 1989.

Events should dictate a different course, said Wendy Cukier, a Ryerson University professor who heads the Coalition for Gun Control.

"Every time there's a tragedy you have to ask `How did this happen, where did the gun come from, was there something that could have been done?'

"It's evidence that we can do better."

Bloc Québécois Leader Gilles Duceppe, whose party firmly supports gun control, insisted that the long-gun registry is needed despite its financial and administrative problems.

Others may argue that tragedies will occur no matter what the law, but Duceppe was having none of that.

"That logic doesn't apply. Otherwise we'll say, `Well, there's a lot of cars being stolen so why don't we stop registering cars?'"

Deputy Liberal leader Lucienne Robillard, whose riding includes Dawson College, predicted the shootings will add urgency to the autumn debate in Parliament.

"I have to tell you, as a woman living in Montreal, I'm against (scrapping the registry)," said Robillard. "But I think the debate will be larger than that."

Robillard, a social worker before entering politics, said there has to be a greater emphasis on the root causes of violence and how to prevent it.

"That's a complex issue and you don't have only one factor."

Tony Doob, a University of Toronto criminologist, said it will take time to sort out all the details and decide what, if any, political response is appropriate.

"At this point, we have no idea whether any criminal justice policies have any relevance," said Doob. "Whether a gun registry might make this kind of thing less likely to occur depends on the specific circumstances."

The École Polytechnique massacre prompted then-prime minister Brian Mulroney to toughen restrictions on a variety of weapons — against the dogged opposition of his own Tory backbenchers.

Mulroney stopped short, however, of a long-gun registry that would require registration of all rifles and shotguns in the country. That initiative was brought in later by Jean Chrétien's Liberals in 1995.

Though popular in urban Canada, the registry has been condemned by farmers, hunters, target shooters, and others for its red tape and cost overruns. Prime Minister Stephen Harper promised to abolish it in the last election, and Public Safety Minister Stockwell Day introduced legislation in June aimed at achieving that goal.

It's unclear whether the bill can pass the House of Commons, given the Tories' current minority status.

The Liberals and NDP are split on the issue, but a substantial majority of both caucuses supports the registry, while the Bloc is virtually unanimous in backing registration.


5 posted on 09/14/2006 8:52:58 AM PDT by digger48
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That Canadian gun registry sure prevented lots of people from being injured or killed.


6 posted on 09/14/2006 8:52:58 AM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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It's the gun's fault. Ban All Guns!!


7 posted on 09/14/2006 8:58:36 AM PDT by Decombobulator
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To: Decombobulator

He also said he loved Jon Stewart and the Daily Show


8 posted on 09/14/2006 8:59:40 AM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: digger48
The latest incident comes with the Conservative government poised to debate legislation this fall that would repeal the federal long-gun registry, in effect undoing some of the moves made by Ottawa in the wake of the Lépine slayings in 1989.

A better response would have been to allow concealed carry. Imagine if there had been several people around who had concealed weapons when this lunatic started shooting.

9 posted on 09/14/2006 9:04:06 AM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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>In a detailed user profile that usually accompanies the web pages of various members, Gill revealed that he was born on July 9, 1981 in Montreal of Indian heritage with a weakness for laziness and a fear of nothing.<

Dr. Robert Hare's Symptoms of Psychopaths
© 1993 by Robert D. Hare, PhD.

Laboratory experiments using biomedical recorders have shown that psychopaths lack the physiological responses normally associated with fear. The significance of this finding is that, for most people, the fear produced by threats of pain or punishment is an unpleasant emotion and a powerful motivator of behavior. Not so with psychopaths; they merrily plunge on, perhaps knowing what might happen but not really caring.

10 posted on 09/14/2006 9:04:16 AM PDT by Darnright (http://media.putfile.com/Webb-on-Allen)
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To: verum ago
is eerily time-stamped 10:41 a.m. yesterday

Why is it eerie? Because it was a few hours before he went off? Seems like a lame segue or I missed something.

11 posted on 09/14/2006 9:06:40 AM PDT by IllumiNaughtyByNature (My Pug is On Her War Footing (and acting like she owns TX now that we're here))
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To: verum ago
I'm sure he also hoped the media would give him as much publicity as possible and make him a household name. Maybe he'll get his own video game.
12 posted on 09/14/2006 9:06:40 AM PDT by BallyBill (Serial Hit-N-Run poster)
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To: Paleo Conservative

Didn't it though!!!


13 posted on 09/14/2006 9:11:29 AM PDT by GW and Twins Pawpaw (Sheepdog for Five [My grandkids are way more important than any lefty's feelings!])
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To: K4Harty

Perhaps a reference to the fact that the last time Goths mattered was about 1041?


14 posted on 09/14/2006 9:14:37 AM PDT by Clioman
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I read this is the second time members of that site have killed people. A male and female killed the females family
in the other incident.


15 posted on 09/14/2006 9:15:23 AM PDT by Recall
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Bad combination.


16 posted on 09/14/2006 9:15:53 AM PDT by July 4th (A vacant lot cancelled out my vote for Bush.)
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To: Clioman

LOL, never thought of that but it's funny. <


17 posted on 09/14/2006 9:16:21 AM PDT by IllumiNaughtyByNature (My Pug is On Her War Footing (and acting like she owns TX now that we're here))
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To: verum ago

......a self-fulfilled prophecy.....


18 posted on 09/14/2006 9:20:14 AM PDT by auto power
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He also said he loved Jon Stewart and the Daily Show

Ban the Daily Show too then. It apparently causes crime, and to boot, it is as many laughs per minute as the Franco-Prussian War...

19 posted on 09/14/2006 9:20:15 AM PDT by akorahil (Thank You and God bless all Veterans. Truly, the real heroes.)
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More gun control in Canada wouldn't do jack to stop nuts like this guy. I saw this morning on FNC he also liked knives - big ones. Soooo, if he was determined to go on a killing spree and couldn't get a rifle he would have used a Bowie or 'survival' knife.

(I know, next step - register knives and outlaw 'big ones')

20 posted on 09/14/2006 9:22:15 AM PDT by Condor51 ("Alot" is NOT a word and doesn't mean "many". It is 'a lot', two separate words.)
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