[wyattearp]

I wasn't arguing with you, just providing a bit more information.

[patton]

ok, thanks. re your tagline - I saw a movie in germany, student gets a question wrong, teacher say, "Brille AB!"

Student dutifully removes his glesses, she grabs the back of his head, and slams his face into the desk.

That was the old germany, kind of like catholic school.

no longer exists.