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Neandertals Had Long Childhoods, Tooth Study Suggests
National Geographic News ^ | September 14, 200 | James Owen

Posted on 09/14/2006 6:04:20 AM PDT by billorites

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To: billorites

I don't understand evolution. If we (humans) evolved over millions of years, why did the Neandert(h)als die out 35,000 years ago? And if we were so similiar, why has human evolution excellerated (sp) to such a degree to allow us to be 'modern' man without any evolutionary changes over the past 35,000 years?


21 posted on 09/14/2006 7:47:48 AM PDT by sandbar
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22 posted on 09/14/2006 11:27:34 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (updated my FR profile on Saturday, September 2, 2006. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: billorites

The tooth is out there.


23 posted on 09/14/2006 11:31:18 AM PDT by SlowBoat407 (I've had it with these &%#@* jihadis on these &%#@* planes!)
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To: billorites

We actually never mature completely. Our maturation stops in early childhood, almost babyhood, but we continue to grow. Thus we are hairless, toothless, and weak as kittens even as adults. Even sexual maturity is very late. Any ape our size would have teeth and fur and be able to whup a grizzly with a stick.


24 posted on 09/14/2006 11:33:05 AM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the law of the excluded middle)
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To: sandbar
" And if we were so similiar, why has human evolution excellerated (sp) to such a degree to allow us to be 'modern' man without any evolutionary changes over the past 35,000 years?"

There was an article around here a few weeks ago that provided some evidence for evolution of the human brain within the last 5,000 years. So...

25 posted on 09/14/2006 11:36:17 AM PDT by blam
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Y'know, I think this topic is a little long in the tooth... let's see...

Neanderthal Teeth Grew No Faster Than Comparable Modern Humans'
Ohio State Research | Monday, September 19, 2005 | Staff
Posted on 09/19/2005 5:11:50 PM EDT by DaveLoneRanger
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1487528/posts

here's something pretty much unrelated, but old and in the way:

Scientists Discover Second Genus of Early Human
Source: Yahoo!
Published: March 21, 2001 Author: Adrian Blomfield
Posted on 03/21/2001 14:53:19 PST by D. Skippy
http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3ab930df74bd.htm


26 posted on 09/14/2006 11:40:40 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (updated my FR profile on Saturday, September 2, 2006. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SlowBoat407

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You'd better be denture of what you're talkin' about. ;')

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27 posted on 09/14/2006 11:41:27 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (updated my FR profile on Saturday, September 2, 2006. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: patton

Some anthropology circles have posited that Neandertal genetics are visible in some populations in france and spain.


28 posted on 09/14/2006 11:53:24 AM PDT by x_plus_one (Muslim immigration breaks democracy into a self-defeating system .)
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To: x_plus_one

Post a link, if you have one - I would love to read it.


29 posted on 09/14/2006 12:00:24 PM PDT by patton (Sanctimony frequently reaps its own reward.)
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To: RightWhale

"We actually never mature completely"....

....our maturation stops in early childhood"

Yeah....I've had a few women tell me that.:<)


30 posted on 09/14/2006 12:11:59 PM PDT by markoman (The man with the rubber glove was....surprisingly gentle.)
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To: x_plus_one

How about in the Romania/Bulgaria/eastern Balkans area?

CA....


31 posted on 09/14/2006 12:26:27 PM PDT by Chances Are (Whew! It seems I've once again found that silly grin!)
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To: billorites
A good book on this subject, though I've not made it all the way through...
Buried Alive by Jack Cuozzo.
32 posted on 09/14/2006 2:42:31 PM PDT by Jessarah
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Buried Alive - long childhoods - teeth? I don't get the connection.
33 posted on 09/14/2006 4:45:25 PM PDT by SuzyQue (Remember to think.)
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To: patton
Only, the "th" sound was eliminated from the german language generations ago - so it is pronounced "tal", and always has been. the "th" spelling was a throwback to middle german.

So the word has not changed - the spelling is just catching up with the pronunciation.

It was in 1924 that the Germans completely restructured their written language to match pronunciation. "Neanderthal" has always been pronounced "Neandertal". It has never been pronounced (at least not properly) with the soft "th" sound, as that sound does not exist in the German Language.

34 posted on 09/14/2006 6:28:23 PM PDT by wyattearp (Study! Study! Study! Or BONK, BONK, on the head!)
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To: wyattearp
Hab' ich schon mal gesagt, weisst?

But, the above poster thought it was a pronunciation shift, so I pointed out, it wasn't.

In fact, it was the LAST surviving silent letter in German. And now it is gone.

35 posted on 09/14/2006 6:44:49 PM PDT by patton (Sanctimony frequently reaps its own reward.)
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To: patton

I wasn't arguing with you, just providing a bit more information.


36 posted on 09/14/2006 6:47:28 PM PDT by wyattearp (Study! Study! Study! Or BONK, BONK, on the head!)
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To: wyattearp
ok, thanks. re your tagline - I saw a movie in germany, student gets a question wrong, teacher say, "Brille AB!"

Student dutifully removes his glesses, she grabs the back of his head, and slams his face into the desk.

That was the old germany, kind of like catholic school.

no longer exists.

37 posted on 09/14/2006 6:52:43 PM PDT by patton (Sanctimony frequently reaps its own reward.)
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To: SuzyQue
Buried Alive - long childhoods - teeth? I don't get the connection.

The author is an orthodontist who studied and measured Neandertal teeth/jaws. I believe his conclusion is that Neanderthals had a long lifespan, thus a longer childhood. However, I've not read it all and don't know what all he speculates on. The whole title is Buried Alive, The Startling Truth About Neanderthal Man.

38 posted on 09/14/2006 7:10:49 PM PDT by Jessarah
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To: Jessarah

Ah - got it. Sounds fascinating.


39 posted on 09/14/2006 7:17:52 PM PDT by SuzyQue (Remember to think.)
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To: blam
In ancient times...
I know people still like that today. It depends on culture. People who come from poverty today nurse their children longer today, because at least they get sure, safe food.

Troggie
40 posted on 09/15/2006 6:54:58 AM PDT by TrogdortheBurninator (Masters, remember that I am an ass: though it be not written down, yet forget not that I am an ass!)
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