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To: muawiyah
  1. Futuyma is considered an authority on evolution by the community of biologists: yes or no.
  2. Ernst Mayr is considered an authority on evolution by the community of biologists: yes or no.
  3. Helena Curtis and N. Sue Barnes are authors of a biology textbook: yes or no.
  4. All of these people have used the word "change" as a rough synonym for evolution (for example: In the broadest sense, evolution is merely change... or Evolution in sexually reproducing organisms consists of genetic changes from generation to generation in populations... or evolution can be precisely defined as any change in the frequency of alleles within a gene pool from one generation to the next.): yes or no.
  5. Muawiyah has said:(NOWHERE is anyone, not even biologists, using the word "evolve" to mean the word "change.): yes or no.
  6. Muawiyah knows more about evolution than Futuyma: yes or no.
  7. Muawiyah knows more about evolution than Helena Curtis and N. Sue Barnes: yes or no.
  8. Muawiyah knows more about evolution than Ernst Mayr: yes or no.

975 posted on 09/16/2006 3:23:48 AM PDT by js1138 (Well I say there are some things we don't want to know! Important things!")
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To: js1138
You've come up with several "statements" from all of those guys where they, in fact, have said "can be" and followed that expression with "change" instead of "evolve". Hmmmm.

However, those statements are CONCLUSIONS they've provided as part of their literary efforts ~ they are NOT representative of their work in biological sciences. For that we need to go to their peer reviewed papers published in respected periodicals.

You bother me enough and I will dig through some of them and find where each and every one of them has used "evolve" when he meant "evolve" and "change" when he meant "change".

The mind doth recoil at the concept of your girl friend telling you "Honey, go evolve the baby's diaper, will ya'?".

The fact that folks with Ph.D's cannot feel the "wrongness" in that usage does not speak well of our universities' higher level degree candidate selection processes. Oh, no it doesn't!

But the good news is there will always be a place for professional wordsmiths, the "writing genes" not having penetrated everywhere!

982 posted on 09/16/2006 5:43:50 AM PDT by muawiyah
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