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To: muawiyah

OK, hang on a second, you are saying that the rhetro virus genes, that have helped us date where different breakoffs in the evolutionary tree have happened, are not genes that we get from mom and dad? or are somehow extra genes that were popped in there?

If that is what you are saying, you could not be further from the truth, and geneticists were not at all surprised to find those genetic markers, they were expected, because we know that a virus will attach their DNA signature to cells that they infect. A Virus cannot reproduce by itself, it needs help from it's host, and with that help it changes the genetic signature of that host in undeniable ways.

As I said, the genetic signatures of various virus throughout the DNA was expected, BTW, it is still the DNA you got from your parents, and the DNA they got from theirs etc, there is just a small signature from where the virus stole it's genetic material in order to reproduce.

The gene sequence numerically remains the same, but some have been switched, or changed by the virus. Most are nulls and have no effect on the progeny, and therefore are passed on generation to generation. It changes the sequence nothing more, and to say it was unexpected, well, sorry, that is an outright lie.


605 posted on 09/14/2006 4:17:18 PM PDT by Jaguarbhzrd
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To: Jaguarbhzrd
I'm speaking of the putative parents all the way back to the point of insertion of those virus genes.

The virus line is not part of what had been the concept of "common descent".

Darwin would have been aghast of course. I'm not sure he even knew about the germ theory of disease to say nothing of retroviruses.

609 posted on 09/14/2006 4:24:50 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Jaguarbhzrd

Regarding your "that is an outright lie", you are not a good debater at all. If you expect any more grant money you will definitely need an attorney or a word-smith and I'm going to make sure you are on the $h|+ list, OK.


611 posted on 09/14/2006 4:26:33 PM PDT by muawiyah
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