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Video: 9/11, as it happened Update: Amateur video added (NEW)
HotAir.com ^ | 09/11/2006 | by Allahpundit

Posted on 09/13/2006 2:38:26 PM PDT by oxcart

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To: wbmstr24
Oh, geez. Come on! The potential for a small fire to start and eventually rage through the building was huge here! For instance, with electronic components the way they are, it doesn't take much for, say, a damaged p.c. assembly to short and ignite. Once it started, people were too busy trying to find and help others after the collapse, not to mention firetrucks were probably buried, etc., etc., etc!

You know what, Recovering Hermit is right. Not worth the energy...

62 posted on 09/13/2006 5:28:07 PM PDT by Ladysmith ((NRA, SAS) Gun owners have illustrated rights are individual and can be protected by individuals.)
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To: GOP_Muzik
The format of the digitized movie is a Quicktime.

I think you missed my point entirely.

I don't care what the final format is. And even if it's a final format, I can re-encode it into something else anyway.

My point is that choppy transitions in the video were a result of one of two possibilities; using the camera or the deck to cut the video...that's about it.

Using Avid or Vegas would not produce those funky transitions between video clips...those appear to be left as-is, and the only real editing was the Intro and Outro. The other "outtakes" were done with hardware.

I'm really not sure what the argument is.

63 posted on 09/13/2006 5:29:08 PM PDT by Recovering Hermit (AIDS and islam...two preventable diseases.)
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To: wbmstr24

"im not saying a bomb or demo did it, im just pointing out how you can see where the conspiracy folks are coming from.... "

I don't buy your feeble explanation for a moment.

Occam's razor and all that....


64 posted on 09/13/2006 5:29:56 PM PDT by statered ("And you know what I mean.")
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To: wbmstr24
There. Now give it a rest, will ya?
65 posted on 09/13/2006 5:36:01 PM PDT by Ladysmith ((NRA, SAS) Gun owners have illustrated rights are individual and can be protected by individuals.)
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To: Ladysmith

Thank-you for the link. That should douse the fire of at least one of our resident gobblers of tinfoil paranoia.

The fact that it is relatively easy to disprove almost every conspiracy only reflects on the looniness, laziness (hello internet research - duh) and lack of empirical evidence that just makes these false accusations all that more infuriating.

Thanks, Me Lady!


66 posted on 09/13/2006 5:44:40 PM PDT by torchthemummy (Abortion: One Dead, One Wounded)
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To: wbmstr24

I can't believe this. Really.

Take a huge jetline LOADED WITH FUEL. Crash it into a structure.

The FUEL made the fire burn at unbelievable temperatures. It blew all the fireproofing OFF the steel..making the steel vulnerable to the HEAT. This began to weaken the structure (heat melting steel) at the intial crash site(s)..As those floors fell..the sheer WEIGHT of them began an irreversable process..THAT is what brought the rest of the WTC down..the WEIGHT from above.

Ok???


67 posted on 09/13/2006 5:53:39 PM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet-prayers for the kidnapped Israeli Soldiers)
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To: Recovering Hermit
Using Avid or Vegas would not produce those funky transitions between video clips...those appear to be left as-is, and the only real editing was the Intro and Outro. The other "outtakes" were done with hardware. I'm really not sure what the argument is.

I'm really not arguing, but I can tell you with all certainty that in FCP those transitions can be reproduced with very little effort. Not all of the edits were 'produced' from what I remember of the original, but the the removal of the 2nd plane hitting was done post cam. There is a CNN documentary available on DVD about 9/11 that has their newscasts and various other video they obtained and some of this footage from this camera, including the 2nd plane hitting and the woman crying, are on it.

68 posted on 09/13/2006 5:53:59 PM PDT by GOP_Muzik (If all the world's a stage then I want different lighting)
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To: TankerKC

Nursery school music. This old man. There's an infant with them. It's surreal, and grotesque. The firetruck honking its horn...like no one will get out of the way.


69 posted on 09/13/2006 6:10:56 PM PDT by Jason_b
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To: TankerKC
The children's CD music playing in the background is surreal.

"This old man, he played __________, he played nick-nack on my back...
with a nick-nack paddywhack, give that dog a bone, this old man came rolling home...."

71 posted on 09/13/2006 6:18:41 PM PDT by XR7
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To: wbmstr24

I think you should take your ignorance to a more appropriate sice, like DU.

Take some chicken wire with you.


72 posted on 09/13/2006 6:20:05 PM PDT by js1138 (Well I say there are some things we don't want to know! Important things!")
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To: wbmstr24; Ladysmith; SE Mom
...itz an interesting observation.

No itz izn't. Itz an idiot's observation.

You are nothing more than a disruptor.

You attempt to come across as making some "simple observations" about the WTC 7 "curiosities", and then provoke responses by pretending to be some innocent goofball who is merely looking for answers.

I'm not buying your crap for a second, so I ask you: What is your theory? What do you think happened here? What's your point?

Let's hear it.

73 posted on 09/13/2006 6:20:38 PM PDT by Recovering Hermit (AIDS and islam...two preventable diseases.)
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To: torchthemummy
You're welcome. All this conspiracy crap is getting old really fast. And it's moving the blame off the @$$h0|3$ responsible for all this.

I have a question for all you conspiracy nutballs - if sKerry were president, would you all still be looking for a government plot in this attack??

74 posted on 09/13/2006 6:20:49 PM PDT by Ladysmith ((NRA, SAS) Gun owners have illustrated rights are individual and can be protected by individuals.)
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To: Ladysmith

I cannot view the video....I don't have dial-up...so not sure what the problem is...could someone please ping me if this gets to youtube....?


75 posted on 09/13/2006 6:22:20 PM PDT by eeevil conservative (JOHN BOLTON FOR PRESIDENT)
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To: wbmstr24
someone else shows a link, and it shows smoke, that looks a lot like the dust and smoke cloud of the wtc 1 and 2 collapse....

Oh man. You're hopeless. The smoke is pouring out of the windows of the building, the firemen are commenting on it, and you still can't see it.

76 posted on 09/13/2006 6:25:55 PM PDT by Ladysmith ((NRA, SAS) Gun owners have illustrated rights are individual and can be protected by individuals.)
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To: eeevil conservative

I'll see if I can find it.


77 posted on 09/13/2006 6:26:34 PM PDT by Ladysmith ((NRA, SAS) Gun owners have illustrated rights are individual and can be protected by individuals.)
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To: SE Mom

Don't forget that Aluminum burns just like gas.


78 posted on 09/13/2006 6:27:31 PM PDT by e_castillo
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To: eeevil conservative

I can all the videos except the one they are referring to....darn it!


79 posted on 09/13/2006 6:29:40 PM PDT by mystery-ak (My Son, My Soldier, My Hero..............)
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To: wbmstr24

Goofball?

pppfffttt...


80 posted on 09/13/2006 6:30:19 PM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet-prayers for the kidnapped Israeli Soldiers)
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