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To: RadioAstronomer
I have a real (not a replica) Neanderthal stone tool from southern France dated to about 60K years ago.

I had an opportunity to handle Neandertal and Homo Sapiens skulls recently. It made me wonder what the cross section of that incredibly long Neandertal skull is compared to H. sapiens.

If the difference is as large as what it looks like, my take on it is that they died in childbirth. Unless they had an extremely large pelvic opening (which I would also like to check out), giving birth would have been very deadly indeed.

55 posted on 09/13/2006 9:23:16 PM PDT by wyattearp (Study! Study! Study! Or BONK, BONK, on the head!)
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To: wyattearp
I had an opportunity to handle Neandertal and Homo Sapiens skulls recently. It made me wonder what the cross section of that incredibly long Neandertal skull is compared to H. sapiens.

If the difference is as large as what it looks like, my take on it is that they died in childbirth. Unless they had an extremely large pelvic opening (which I would also like to check out), giving birth would have been very deadly indeed.

That is the way to approach the study: handle the casts of the originals.

You can learn a lot about the theory of evolution from actually looking at the data. And there are thousands of casts available!

I fondled the bones for about six years in grad school, and learned a great deal. Line up the best crania on the desk and sort them by eye and see what you get. Just look at the gross features, and put them in whatever order seems appropriate.

I bet you will order them in the same way the rest of the experts do. Its not rocket science--you really can see it for yourself if you just look at the casts.

I don't recall a Neanderthal pelvis from when I studied. I do recall great specimens of chimp, Australopithecus, and modern human. Folks who are asked to make two groups out of these almost always put Australopithecus and modern human together based on shape, rather than Australopithecus and chimp together based on size). It is just the natural thing to do.

And that is what most of the study of fossil man is--connecting like traits. And, you know, it works!

56 posted on 09/13/2006 9:41:53 PM PDT by Coyoteman (I love the sound of beta decay in the morning!)
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