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Rush Limbaugh Live Thread Wednesday 09-13-2006
RushLimbaugh.com ^ | 09-13-06

Posted on 09/13/2006 9:00:08 AM PDT by MNJohnnie

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The enemy within -- and it's not who you think (David Warren nails Islamofascism's 5th column)

Ottawa Citizen - Canada ^ | September 13, 2006 | David Warren

Posted on 09/13/2006 10:43:18 AM CDT by GMMAC

The enemy within -- and it's not who you think

Ottawa Citizen September 13, 2006

COMMENTARY: DAVID WARREN

Listening to President Bush speak, on Monday's anniversary of 9/11, after a day of distastefully sentimental memorials, my question was not what have we achieved in the last five years, but rather, what have we learned? Bush and Blair -- the captain and vice-captain of Team West in the war against "the terrorists" so far -- are both now in the twilight of their political careers. Both have recently broken with habitual discretion, and made attempts to name the enemy. This has, if anything, added to their unpopularity, for when they mention that the enemy presents himself as Islamic, there are shrill cries not only from radical Muslims, but across the spectrum of the Left in the West.

Mr Bush, much the less eloquent of the two, has now retreated from his use of the term "Islamofascist" -- which as I said in a previous column, is a fairer label than "Islamist" for an enemy that spreads a palampore of traditional Islam, over a stuffing from the Western-bred totalitarian ideologies of the 20th century. As I wrote Aug. 27, from Ahmadinejad to Zawahiri, we hear rhetoric that uses an Islamic vocabulary and crude grammar, but animated with a syntax that owes more to Hitler, Stalin, and Mao, than to the Prophet and his traditional interpreters. The term is thus meant to suggest a skewed Islam, an Islam "adapted to our age" by psychopathic men, whose own Islamic learning is purposefully politicized, and aggressively de-spiritualized. Since the alternative would be to say that Ahmadinejad, Zawahiri, et al. do speak legitimately for Islam, I don't see why anyone should object to the term "Islamofascist".

Mr Blair gave an interview worth reading to the Israeli daily, Haaretz, published Monday. The editors present characterized it as "sombre". The British prime minister was still going through the motions of advocating the "peace process", and the "two-state solution" for Israel and Palestine, without (according to me) any real conviction that it could work. It is just something Western politicians do to please the figurative "Arab street", and it does not please anyone, any more. With much more conviction, he said leaders throughout the West have grasped that we are in a truly "global struggle", for which the people of the West are not prepared. The politicians have failed to explain to us how much is at stake, and how much will be lost if we are not resolute in defence of Western values.

For all its uncharacteristic awkwardness, Mr Blair's answer to a question about British home-grown terrorists donged the bell:

"It's not necessarily what have we done wrong, because part of the problem of what you have in Western opinion is that Western opinion always wants to believe that it's our fault and these people want to have a sort of, you know, grievance culture that they visit upon us and say it's our fault. And so we have a young British-born man of Pakistani origin sitting in front of a television screen saying I will go and kill innocent people because of the oppression of Muslims, when he has been brought up in a country that has given him complete religious freedom and full democratic rights and actually a very good job and standard of living. Now, that warped mind has grown out of a global movement based on a perversion of Islam which we have to confront, and we have to confront it globally."

I frankly admire both Bush and Blair, as courageous politicians, with open minds, doing their best within the limits of what is politically possible in their respective spheres. They are both towering figures, in comparison to the little men who oppose them. We won't know what trouble is, until the little men replace them.

I continue optimistic about what can be done, should we summon the will to do it. I have written repeatedly that a robust and unified Western response to "Islamofascism" could fling it quickly onto the trash-heap of history, to join Nasserism and Baathism and other earlier manifestations of Arab nationalism and socialism. Smack it hard, without apology.

My pessimism is founded in the fear that this robust and unified response cannot be mobilized. We have a huge fifth column in the West, and it is not the Muslim immigrants. They become radicalized only because our "victim culture" encourages them to nurture their grievances. Yet most, despite temptation, remain good, decent people, doing their share of the West's work.

Our real enemy is within us, in the immense constituency of the half-educated narcissists pouring from our universities each year -- that glib, smug, liberal, and defeatist "victim culture" itself, that inhabits the academy, our media, our legal establishment, the bureaucratic class. The opinion leaders of our society, who live almost entirely off the avails of taxation, make their livelihoods biting the hands that feed them, and undermining the moral order on which our solidarity depends.


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To: Clint N. Suhks

I would welcome it.


61 posted on 09/13/2006 9:18:26 AM PDT by angcat ("IF YOU DON'T STAND BEHIND OUR TROOPS, PLEASE, FEEL FREE TO STAND IN FRONT OF THEM !")
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To: MNJohnnie

Baynor had better not apologize.

Or, if he feels compelled to do so, he should gather all the ugly Democratic quotes the Rats have made about Bush and say:

"I'll apologize the MINUTE the Democrats apologize for calling Bush Hitler, that he knew 9/11 was coming, that he manipulated us into the war for oil, etc."


62 posted on 09/13/2006 9:18:35 AM PDT by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they captured or killed.)
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The remarks have appeared to hit a VERY raw nerve.

Hit em again, Hit em again
Harder, Harder! [/Football chant]

63 posted on 09/13/2006 9:18:42 AM PDT by DoctorMichael (A wall first. A wall now.)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Must not have been too bad for the GOP, otherwise the DBM would be pulling out the stops this morning with all the negative "Republicans Lose" stories .


64 posted on 09/13/2006 9:18:48 AM PDT by RasterMaster (Winning Islamic hearts and minds.........one bullet at a time!)
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To: ChicagoConservative27
From the thread last night, it was about 20,000 some votes.

Thanks, Chicago. I looked at the thread this morning, but it had more than 1300 posts and I didn't have time to read them all to find out.

65 posted on 09/13/2006 9:18:50 AM PDT by American Quilter (You can't negotiate with people who are dedicated to your destruction.)
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To: angcat

Nasty up by you too, eh?


66 posted on 09/13/2006 9:19:04 AM PDT by Roccus
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To: American Quilter

Not sure how close it was....


67 posted on 09/13/2006 9:19:14 AM PDT by aligncare (In warfare, the only moral stance is to win)
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To: American Quilter; Clint N. Suhks
A great science site using some of the same scientific logic, technique and experts as global warming!!!
68 posted on 09/13/2006 9:19:23 AM PDT by ct_libertarian ("Who Is John Galt?" Ayn Rand)
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To: Roccus

http://www.merrymaids.com/


69 posted on 09/13/2006 9:19:24 AM PDT by angcat ("IF YOU DON'T STAND BEHIND OUR TROOPS, PLEASE, FEEL FREE TO STAND IN FRONT OF THEM !")
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To: SE Mom
Glad to know the NRA ad still bothers the Kerry supporters!


70 posted on 09/13/2006 9:20:02 AM PDT by RasterMaster (Winning Islamic hearts and minds.........one bullet at a time!)
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To: Roccus

I'd be happy to oblige..I'm so mad these days I could probably keep several houses spotless! I even do windows AND ironing. During the Israeli Lebanon war I painted my living room too!


71 posted on 09/13/2006 9:20:05 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet-prayers for the kidnapped Israeli Soldiers)
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To: Roccus

Yes it is a day to stay home and sleep.


72 posted on 09/13/2006 9:20:19 AM PDT by angcat ("IF YOU DON'T STAND BEHIND OUR TROOPS, PLEASE, FEEL FREE TO STAND IN FRONT OF THEM !")
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To: ChicagoConservative27

95% counted it looks like Cardin vs. Steele.


73 posted on 09/13/2006 9:20:21 AM PDT by Clint N. Suhks (If you don't love Jesus, you can go to hell.)
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To: American Quilter

Your welcome.


74 posted on 09/13/2006 9:20:37 AM PDT by ChicagoConservative27
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To: angcat

LOL!!! Caught me with that one! LOL!!


75 posted on 09/13/2006 9:20:38 AM PDT by Roccus
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To: MNJohnnie
Here ... work N lurk mode ON.
76 posted on 09/13/2006 9:21:18 AM PDT by sono (One Party is interested in confronting this threat - the other only in confronting Bush - Mark Steyn)
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To: Clint N. Suhks

Go Steele go.


77 posted on 09/13/2006 9:21:20 AM PDT by ChicagoConservative27
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To: MaestroLC
He is an unprofessional buffoon.

Indeed and shows the stupidity of Russert/NBC grooming him for bigger and better things.

78 posted on 09/13/2006 9:21:37 AM PDT by StarFan
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To: American Quilter

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1699861/posts


79 posted on 09/13/2006 9:23:13 AM PDT by sono (One Party is interested in confronting this threat - the other only in confronting Bush - Mark Steyn)
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To: SE Mom

No ironing, no windows, no straightening-up. Just vacuuming and dusting and shinning up the bath and kitchen. I keep on top of it, but dust is invisible to me until I move something.


80 posted on 09/13/2006 9:23:21 AM PDT by Roccus
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