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Rush Limbaugh Live Thread Wednesday 09-13-2006
RushLimbaugh.com ^ | 09-13-06

Posted on 09/13/2006 9:00:08 AM PDT by MNJohnnie

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The enemy within -- and it's not who you think (David Warren nails Islamofascism's 5th column)

Ottawa Citizen - Canada ^ | September 13, 2006 | David Warren

Posted on 09/13/2006 10:43:18 AM CDT by GMMAC

The enemy within -- and it's not who you think

Ottawa Citizen September 13, 2006

COMMENTARY: DAVID WARREN

Listening to President Bush speak, on Monday's anniversary of 9/11, after a day of distastefully sentimental memorials, my question was not what have we achieved in the last five years, but rather, what have we learned? Bush and Blair -- the captain and vice-captain of Team West in the war against "the terrorists" so far -- are both now in the twilight of their political careers. Both have recently broken with habitual discretion, and made attempts to name the enemy. This has, if anything, added to their unpopularity, for when they mention that the enemy presents himself as Islamic, there are shrill cries not only from radical Muslims, but across the spectrum of the Left in the West.

Mr Bush, much the less eloquent of the two, has now retreated from his use of the term "Islamofascist" -- which as I said in a previous column, is a fairer label than "Islamist" for an enemy that spreads a palampore of traditional Islam, over a stuffing from the Western-bred totalitarian ideologies of the 20th century. As I wrote Aug. 27, from Ahmadinejad to Zawahiri, we hear rhetoric that uses an Islamic vocabulary and crude grammar, but animated with a syntax that owes more to Hitler, Stalin, and Mao, than to the Prophet and his traditional interpreters. The term is thus meant to suggest a skewed Islam, an Islam "adapted to our age" by psychopathic men, whose own Islamic learning is purposefully politicized, and aggressively de-spiritualized. Since the alternative would be to say that Ahmadinejad, Zawahiri, et al. do speak legitimately for Islam, I don't see why anyone should object to the term "Islamofascist".

Mr Blair gave an interview worth reading to the Israeli daily, Haaretz, published Monday. The editors present characterized it as "sombre". The British prime minister was still going through the motions of advocating the "peace process", and the "two-state solution" for Israel and Palestine, without (according to me) any real conviction that it could work. It is just something Western politicians do to please the figurative "Arab street", and it does not please anyone, any more. With much more conviction, he said leaders throughout the West have grasped that we are in a truly "global struggle", for which the people of the West are not prepared. The politicians have failed to explain to us how much is at stake, and how much will be lost if we are not resolute in defence of Western values.

For all its uncharacteristic awkwardness, Mr Blair's answer to a question about British home-grown terrorists donged the bell:

"It's not necessarily what have we done wrong, because part of the problem of what you have in Western opinion is that Western opinion always wants to believe that it's our fault and these people want to have a sort of, you know, grievance culture that they visit upon us and say it's our fault. And so we have a young British-born man of Pakistani origin sitting in front of a television screen saying I will go and kill innocent people because of the oppression of Muslims, when he has been brought up in a country that has given him complete religious freedom and full democratic rights and actually a very good job and standard of living. Now, that warped mind has grown out of a global movement based on a perversion of Islam which we have to confront, and we have to confront it globally."

I frankly admire both Bush and Blair, as courageous politicians, with open minds, doing their best within the limits of what is politically possible in their respective spheres. They are both towering figures, in comparison to the little men who oppose them. We won't know what trouble is, until the little men replace them.

I continue optimistic about what can be done, should we summon the will to do it. I have written repeatedly that a robust and unified Western response to "Islamofascism" could fling it quickly onto the trash-heap of history, to join Nasserism and Baathism and other earlier manifestations of Arab nationalism and socialism. Smack it hard, without apology.

My pessimism is founded in the fear that this robust and unified response cannot be mobilized. We have a huge fifth column in the West, and it is not the Muslim immigrants. They become radicalized only because our "victim culture" encourages them to nurture their grievances. Yet most, despite temptation, remain good, decent people, doing their share of the West's work.

Our real enemy is within us, in the immense constituency of the half-educated narcissists pouring from our universities each year -- that glib, smug, liberal, and defeatist "victim culture" itself, that inhabits the academy, our media, our legal establishment, the bureaucratic class. The opinion leaders of our society, who live almost entirely off the avails of taxation, make their livelihoods biting the hands that feed them, and undermining the moral order on which our solidarity depends.


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To: Sensei Ern

Frikken impossible I would think. And yes, poor child indeed. That poor kid will be so screwed up in life with a total lack of values and morals, indoctrinated in the most radical forms of liberalism, the kid will by human by genic standards only. If not for the Constitution being so raped and mangled by liberals to allow screwed up people like her to have kids to mess up, there would be an intervention and the kid would be in a REAL family, who didn't adopt her just to make a political statement and force the flaming gay rights agenda on kids. It's perverse. The kid is a poker chip in the game of gay rights. It's that simple.


621 posted on 09/13/2006 11:42:34 AM PDT by TexasPatriot8 (Liberty must be defended, so the children of those who fell, can understand its value. Never forget.)
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To: rodguy911

I cannot get onto Moran's website. I suspect he is hearing from the American people about this right now.


622 posted on 09/13/2006 11:42:39 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Rove made me do it!)
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To: Pyro7480

Me too. I've met him - I can't stand him.


623 posted on 09/13/2006 11:43:09 AM PDT by khnyny
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To: FaithintheRight
Does what you detailed in your excellent post apply in the 21st Century, or was all that only applicable during the 14th Century?
624 posted on 09/13/2006 11:44:24 AM PDT by aligncare (In warfare, the only moral stance is to win)
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To: khnyny

I saw him greeting commuters at the Metro station I get on at (I give him credit for that). I acknowledged him, but I kept on walking, since I didn't know how far I would go if I said something to him.


625 posted on 09/13/2006 11:44:39 AM PDT by Pyro7480 ("Love is the fusion of two souls in one in order to bring about mutual perfection." -S. Terese Andes)
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To: FaithintheRight

He and Lamont would get along just fine.


626 posted on 09/13/2006 11:44:40 AM PDT by ct_libertarian ("Who Is John Galt?" Ayn Rand)
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To: aligncare
To the ROP, this IS the 14th Century!
627 posted on 09/13/2006 11:45:30 AM PDT by Roccus (Dealing with Democrats IS the War on Terror. (Stolen from FReeper Stallone))
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To: MNJohnnie

Thanks to this thread for the heads up. I am going to turn on the radio. I had turned it off because I thought I could get Tony Snow this afternoon, but as usual C-SPAN decided we should see Murtha or Sheays. Bah.


628 posted on 09/13/2006 11:45:51 AM PDT by Miss Marple (Lord, please look over Mozart Lover's and Jemian's sons and keep them strong.)
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To: aligncare

To Muslims, it still is the 14th century.


629 posted on 09/13/2006 11:45:52 AM PDT by darkangel82 (Higher visibility leads to greater zottability.)
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To: Roccus

Oops, you beat me to it.


630 posted on 09/13/2006 11:46:28 AM PDT by darkangel82 (Higher visibility leads to greater zottability.)
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To: khnyny

Katy sounds like a good person..


631 posted on 09/13/2006 11:46:51 AM PDT by cibco (Xin Loi! Saddam)
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To: Pyro7480

Moran is a total phony.

I really feel for this caller. God bless her.


632 posted on 09/13/2006 11:46:56 AM PDT by khnyny
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To: All

Okay, really gone now, y'all (that's "you's guys" for some in America) ;) have a great day. :)


633 posted on 09/13/2006 11:47:05 AM PDT by TexasPatriot8 (Liberty must be defended, so the children of those who fell, can understand its value. Never forget.)
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To: cibco

That was a good call!


634 posted on 09/13/2006 11:47:18 AM PDT by A.Hun (Common sense is no longer common.)
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To: FaithintheRight
Jim Moran looks very clintonesque.
635 posted on 09/13/2006 11:47:22 AM PDT by Mad Dash
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To: A.Hun

Katie, stop apologizing for calling Democrats scum!


636 posted on 09/13/2006 11:47:47 AM PDT by MarkLevinFan
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To: cibco

Yep. Rush just called her a good person.

Hopefully more Katy's will wake up and see the truth.


637 posted on 09/13/2006 11:47:58 AM PDT by khnyny
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To: TexasPatriot8
http://www.house.gov/formmoran/zipforms/zipauth.html

Alexandria Office

333 N. Fairfax St.
Suite 201
Alexandria, VA 22314

Phone: (703) 971-4700
Fax: (703) 922-9436

Reston Office

1760 Reston Parkway
Suite 504
Reston, VA 20190

Phone: (703) 481-4339
Fax: (703) 481-4338 2239

Washington, D.C. Office
2239 Rayburn Building
Washington, DC 20515-4608

Phone: (202) 225-4376
Fax: (202) 225-0017

638 posted on 09/13/2006 11:48:37 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Rove made me do it!)
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To: ct_libertarian
When I voted last night, it seemed the only two Republicans to show up were the voting chief(whatever his title) and myself.

We even had a Hari Krishna helping out. That was beyond bizarre. Fortunately, she didn't ask for a donation for hairy fishnuts!

639 posted on 09/13/2006 11:48:54 AM PDT by Sensei Ern (Nothing says security like the smell of gunpowder.)
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To: MarkLevinFan

She didn't call them scum, but she did call them out.


640 posted on 09/13/2006 11:48:58 AM PDT by Pyro7480 ("Love is the fusion of two souls in one in order to bring about mutual perfection." -S. Terese Andes)
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