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Rush Limbaugh Live Thread Wednesday 09-13-2006
RushLimbaugh.com ^ | 09-13-06

Posted on 09/13/2006 9:00:08 AM PDT by MNJohnnie

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The enemy within -- and it's not who you think (David Warren nails Islamofascism's 5th column)

Ottawa Citizen - Canada ^ | September 13, 2006 | David Warren

Posted on 09/13/2006 10:43:18 AM CDT by GMMAC

The enemy within -- and it's not who you think

Ottawa Citizen September 13, 2006

COMMENTARY: DAVID WARREN

Listening to President Bush speak, on Monday's anniversary of 9/11, after a day of distastefully sentimental memorials, my question was not what have we achieved in the last five years, but rather, what have we learned? Bush and Blair -- the captain and vice-captain of Team West in the war against "the terrorists" so far -- are both now in the twilight of their political careers. Both have recently broken with habitual discretion, and made attempts to name the enemy. This has, if anything, added to their unpopularity, for when they mention that the enemy presents himself as Islamic, there are shrill cries not only from radical Muslims, but across the spectrum of the Left in the West.

Mr Bush, much the less eloquent of the two, has now retreated from his use of the term "Islamofascist" -- which as I said in a previous column, is a fairer label than "Islamist" for an enemy that spreads a palampore of traditional Islam, over a stuffing from the Western-bred totalitarian ideologies of the 20th century. As I wrote Aug. 27, from Ahmadinejad to Zawahiri, we hear rhetoric that uses an Islamic vocabulary and crude grammar, but animated with a syntax that owes more to Hitler, Stalin, and Mao, than to the Prophet and his traditional interpreters. The term is thus meant to suggest a skewed Islam, an Islam "adapted to our age" by psychopathic men, whose own Islamic learning is purposefully politicized, and aggressively de-spiritualized. Since the alternative would be to say that Ahmadinejad, Zawahiri, et al. do speak legitimately for Islam, I don't see why anyone should object to the term "Islamofascist".

Mr Blair gave an interview worth reading to the Israeli daily, Haaretz, published Monday. The editors present characterized it as "sombre". The British prime minister was still going through the motions of advocating the "peace process", and the "two-state solution" for Israel and Palestine, without (according to me) any real conviction that it could work. It is just something Western politicians do to please the figurative "Arab street", and it does not please anyone, any more. With much more conviction, he said leaders throughout the West have grasped that we are in a truly "global struggle", for which the people of the West are not prepared. The politicians have failed to explain to us how much is at stake, and how much will be lost if we are not resolute in defence of Western values.

For all its uncharacteristic awkwardness, Mr Blair's answer to a question about British home-grown terrorists donged the bell:

"It's not necessarily what have we done wrong, because part of the problem of what you have in Western opinion is that Western opinion always wants to believe that it's our fault and these people want to have a sort of, you know, grievance culture that they visit upon us and say it's our fault. And so we have a young British-born man of Pakistani origin sitting in front of a television screen saying I will go and kill innocent people because of the oppression of Muslims, when he has been brought up in a country that has given him complete religious freedom and full democratic rights and actually a very good job and standard of living. Now, that warped mind has grown out of a global movement based on a perversion of Islam which we have to confront, and we have to confront it globally."

I frankly admire both Bush and Blair, as courageous politicians, with open minds, doing their best within the limits of what is politically possible in their respective spheres. They are both towering figures, in comparison to the little men who oppose them. We won't know what trouble is, until the little men replace them.

I continue optimistic about what can be done, should we summon the will to do it. I have written repeatedly that a robust and unified Western response to "Islamofascism" could fling it quickly onto the trash-heap of history, to join Nasserism and Baathism and other earlier manifestations of Arab nationalism and socialism. Smack it hard, without apology.

My pessimism is founded in the fear that this robust and unified response cannot be mobilized. We have a huge fifth column in the West, and it is not the Muslim immigrants. They become radicalized only because our "victim culture" encourages them to nurture their grievances. Yet most, despite temptation, remain good, decent people, doing their share of the West's work.

Our real enemy is within us, in the immense constituency of the half-educated narcissists pouring from our universities each year -- that glib, smug, liberal, and defeatist "victim culture" itself, that inhabits the academy, our media, our legal establishment, the bureaucratic class. The opinion leaders of our society, who live almost entirely off the avails of taxation, make their livelihoods biting the hands that feed them, and undermining the moral order on which our solidarity depends.


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To: American Quilter

Quote of the day!


541 posted on 09/13/2006 11:21:14 AM PDT by AliVeritas (Libs, your choice... the .380 or Glock? This is not a game, and I have bail money.)
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To: A.Hun

About 1 trillion seconds ago, Isaac was just a twinkle in Abraham's eye.


542 posted on 09/13/2006 11:21:15 AM PDT by Sensei Ern (Nothing says security like the smell of gunpowder.)
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To: Roccus
"See #365"

As usual the media ignores fact, in order to promote fiction. 5th Column doesn't begin to describe their actions.

543 posted on 09/13/2006 11:22:06 AM PDT by sofaman ("We will not tire. We will not falter. And we will not fail." Thank You, Mr President.)
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To: Sensei Ern

OOooopsie! Was thinking trillion.
(I just read a column by Walter Williams I think, about this)

Like I said up thread. Good at remembering what happened 49yrs ago. Yesterday......

Never mind. {:^(


544 posted on 09/13/2006 11:22:23 AM PDT by Roccus (Dealing with Democrats IS the War on Terror. (Stolen from FReeper Stallone))
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To: A.Hun

I can see Rush on the air for another 10-15 years. God Bless.


545 posted on 09/13/2006 11:22:30 AM PDT by ChicagoConservative27
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To: AliVeritas

Thanks, Ali!


546 posted on 09/13/2006 11:22:43 AM PDT by American Quilter (You can't negotiate with people who are dedicated to your destruction.)
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To: khnyny

Gotta ask him.


547 posted on 09/13/2006 11:23:14 AM PDT by Roccus (Dealing with Democrats IS the War on Terror. (Stolen from FReeper Stallone))
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To: A.Hun

With friends like you.....


548 posted on 09/13/2006 11:24:05 AM PDT by Roccus (Dealing with Democrats IS the War on Terror. (Stolen from FReeper Stallone))
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To: Roccus
Never mind. {:^(

That's okay, Roc. We know what you meant!

549 posted on 09/13/2006 11:24:06 AM PDT by American Quilter (You can't negotiate with people who are dedicated to your destruction.)
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To: MaestroLC
Yeah that was funny. Unexpected reality check. That may have been a lie too. It's not terribly common that Jews marry non Jews, and she didn't say she was one. I've also heard liberals say that "new conservatives" are neo-cons, and I've been called a "neo-con" by liberals. If their definition holds, then "new" must be 22 or fewer years because I've been a social and fiscal political and ideological conservative that identified with the Republican party mostly if not entirely since I was about 12 and started developing a decent understanding of politics and what position which political parties take on the many different big issues. It was especially striking to me that JD said that neo-cons are people who want to destroy America, and many liberals say that ALL real social and fiscal war supporting tax cutting contstructionist Judge supporting conservatives are neo-cons.

So truth be told, liberals really and truly do believe that all conservatives are neo-cons, and that they want to destroy America and are a bigger threat then the Islamo-Fascist terrorists. Of course, neo-con is only used by liberals because they're so put off by being called liberals themselves, and they got sick of calling us "conservatives" and that not annoying us because we're proud of being conservatives and loudly and proudly proclaim it. It's hard to find a liberal off the radio, in public, who will admit to being liberal, so they had to come up with some term that they thought would offend Conservatives as much as liberal offends them, even though it's true, so neo-con won the pool I guess. Everything is a game to them. Stupid liberals.

550 posted on 09/13/2006 11:24:29 AM PDT by TexasPatriot8 (Liberty must be defended, so the children of those who fell, can understand its value. Never forget.)
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To: A.Hun

Seminar Caller!


551 posted on 09/13/2006 11:24:44 AM PDT by Clint N. Suhks (If you don't love Jesus, you can go to hell.)
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To: darkangel82

not all muslims are terrorists, but all terrorists are muslims.


552 posted on 09/13/2006 11:25:11 AM PDT by AliVeritas (Libs, your choice... the .380 or Glock? This is not a game, and I have bail money.)
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To: ChicagoConservative27
I got the perfect tagline for Fonda Radio too...

Ack! Ack! Ack!

Think they'll use it?
553 posted on 09/13/2006 11:25:15 AM PDT by ct_libertarian ("Who Is John Galt?" Ayn Rand)
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To: Clint N. Suhks

Benjamin Netanyahu said that??


554 posted on 09/13/2006 11:25:17 AM PDT by Pyro7480 ("Love is the fusion of two souls in one in order to bring about mutual perfection." -S. Terese Andes)
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To: AliVeritas
but all terrorists are muslims.

There are still left-wing terrorists around.

555 posted on 09/13/2006 11:25:43 AM PDT by Pyro7480 ("Love is the fusion of two souls in one in order to bring about mutual perfection." -S. Terese Andes)
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To: Clint N. Suhks

"I'm a right-wing conservative"--first tip-off.


556 posted on 09/13/2006 11:25:47 AM PDT by rightwingintelligentsia
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To: mewzilla
Too late. I voted for Bubba twice

Go to your room, missy!

557 posted on 09/13/2006 11:25:50 AM PDT by aligncare (In warfare, the only moral stance is to win)
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To: American Quilter

Oh boy, a caller who wants to quibble. Lady, the Quran DOES condone the killing of innocents, because according to Islam, non-Muslims are evil.


558 posted on 09/13/2006 11:26:04 AM PDT by American Quilter (You can't negotiate with people who are dedicated to your destruction.)
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To: ct_libertarian

LOL!


559 posted on 09/13/2006 11:26:11 AM PDT by ChicagoConservative27
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To: Mad Dash

RUSH, ASK HER WHAT HER MOSQUE IS DOING ABOUT IT AND ARE THEY TOLD THE ZAKAT DOESN'T GO TO TERROR... AND HOW DO THEY KNOW?


560 posted on 09/13/2006 11:26:25 AM PDT by AliVeritas (Libs, your choice... the .380 or Glock? This is not a game, and I have bail money.)
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