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Rush Limbaugh Live Thread Wednesday 09-13-2006
RushLimbaugh.com ^ | 09-13-06

Posted on 09/13/2006 9:00:08 AM PDT by MNJohnnie

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The enemy within -- and it's not who you think (David Warren nails Islamofascism's 5th column)

Ottawa Citizen - Canada ^ | September 13, 2006 | David Warren

Posted on 09/13/2006 10:43:18 AM CDT by GMMAC

The enemy within -- and it's not who you think

Ottawa Citizen September 13, 2006

COMMENTARY: DAVID WARREN

Listening to President Bush speak, on Monday's anniversary of 9/11, after a day of distastefully sentimental memorials, my question was not what have we achieved in the last five years, but rather, what have we learned? Bush and Blair -- the captain and vice-captain of Team West in the war against "the terrorists" so far -- are both now in the twilight of their political careers. Both have recently broken with habitual discretion, and made attempts to name the enemy. This has, if anything, added to their unpopularity, for when they mention that the enemy presents himself as Islamic, there are shrill cries not only from radical Muslims, but across the spectrum of the Left in the West.

Mr Bush, much the less eloquent of the two, has now retreated from his use of the term "Islamofascist" -- which as I said in a previous column, is a fairer label than "Islamist" for an enemy that spreads a palampore of traditional Islam, over a stuffing from the Western-bred totalitarian ideologies of the 20th century. As I wrote Aug. 27, from Ahmadinejad to Zawahiri, we hear rhetoric that uses an Islamic vocabulary and crude grammar, but animated with a syntax that owes more to Hitler, Stalin, and Mao, than to the Prophet and his traditional interpreters. The term is thus meant to suggest a skewed Islam, an Islam "adapted to our age" by psychopathic men, whose own Islamic learning is purposefully politicized, and aggressively de-spiritualized. Since the alternative would be to say that Ahmadinejad, Zawahiri, et al. do speak legitimately for Islam, I don't see why anyone should object to the term "Islamofascist".

Mr Blair gave an interview worth reading to the Israeli daily, Haaretz, published Monday. The editors present characterized it as "sombre". The British prime minister was still going through the motions of advocating the "peace process", and the "two-state solution" for Israel and Palestine, without (according to me) any real conviction that it could work. It is just something Western politicians do to please the figurative "Arab street", and it does not please anyone, any more. With much more conviction, he said leaders throughout the West have grasped that we are in a truly "global struggle", for which the people of the West are not prepared. The politicians have failed to explain to us how much is at stake, and how much will be lost if we are not resolute in defence of Western values.

For all its uncharacteristic awkwardness, Mr Blair's answer to a question about British home-grown terrorists donged the bell:

"It's not necessarily what have we done wrong, because part of the problem of what you have in Western opinion is that Western opinion always wants to believe that it's our fault and these people want to have a sort of, you know, grievance culture that they visit upon us and say it's our fault. And so we have a young British-born man of Pakistani origin sitting in front of a television screen saying I will go and kill innocent people because of the oppression of Muslims, when he has been brought up in a country that has given him complete religious freedom and full democratic rights and actually a very good job and standard of living. Now, that warped mind has grown out of a global movement based on a perversion of Islam which we have to confront, and we have to confront it globally."

I frankly admire both Bush and Blair, as courageous politicians, with open minds, doing their best within the limits of what is politically possible in their respective spheres. They are both towering figures, in comparison to the little men who oppose them. We won't know what trouble is, until the little men replace them.

I continue optimistic about what can be done, should we summon the will to do it. I have written repeatedly that a robust and unified Western response to "Islamofascism" could fling it quickly onto the trash-heap of history, to join Nasserism and Baathism and other earlier manifestations of Arab nationalism and socialism. Smack it hard, without apology.

My pessimism is founded in the fear that this robust and unified response cannot be mobilized. We have a huge fifth column in the West, and it is not the Muslim immigrants. They become radicalized only because our "victim culture" encourages them to nurture their grievances. Yet most, despite temptation, remain good, decent people, doing their share of the West's work.

Our real enemy is within us, in the immense constituency of the half-educated narcissists pouring from our universities each year -- that glib, smug, liberal, and defeatist "victim culture" itself, that inhabits the academy, our media, our legal establishment, the bureaucratic class. The opinion leaders of our society, who live almost entirely off the avails of taxation, make their livelihoods biting the hands that feed them, and undermining the moral order on which our solidarity depends.


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To: MaestroLC

Cemetery thread here...http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1700581/posts

You will notice, I don't like bombing cemeteries either.


341 posted on 09/13/2006 10:24:32 AM PDT by A.Hun (Common sense is no longer common.)
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To: sofaman
We can't kill terrorist's in cemetery's now? WTF????? Rules my ass. Kill the bastards.
342 posted on 09/13/2006 10:24:32 AM PDT by ChicagoConservative27
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To: MNJohnnie; All
Taliban Gets Bury Lucky [Contracting funerals in world of PC]

Check out the front page pic on the NYP.

343 posted on 09/13/2006 10:24:39 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: AliVeritas

I really think it is time that somehow we as American rise up against that SOB!!

I'm sick of that lying antisemitic corrupt, theaving pig taking further benefit from this country.

There MUST be something we can do!!!


344 posted on 09/13/2006 10:25:02 AM PDT by jackv (just shakin' my head)
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To: Roccus
And the DBM works hand in glove with them in that approach.

That's because they are part of the enemy within.

345 posted on 09/13/2006 10:26:18 AM PDT by Mr Cobol (You want to see who the "enemy within" is? Tune to ABCCBSNBCMSNBCCNNFOX!)
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To: Roccus
Yeah, anyone that calls him "Jorge Bush" is not a serious blogger nor a credible source of information. Hot Air is just that, hot air.
346 posted on 09/13/2006 10:26:19 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Say Leftists. How many Nazis did killing Nazis in WW2 create? Samurai? Fascists?)
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To: A.Hun
NRO now reports the good news...

Air America Radio will announce a major restructuring on Friday, which is expected to include a bankruptcy filing, three independent sources have told ThinkProgress.

I look foreword to the Drudge siren on this one. LOL.

347 posted on 09/13/2006 10:26:50 AM PDT by MaestroLC ("Let him who wants peace prepare for war."--Vegetius, A.D. Forth Century)
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To: American Quilter
I'm so glad Mfume was defeated. He's bad for America.

Such open racists usually are.

348 posted on 09/13/2006 10:26:54 AM PDT by aligncare (In warfare, the only moral stance is to win)
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To: sofaman
"Methinks Murtha has lost his marbles...."

He never had them. That ethics investigation must really have him worried.

349 posted on 09/13/2006 10:27:15 AM PDT by cibco (Xin Loi! Saddam)
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To: All

I am so glad Rush brought this up about labeling political leanings of producers and writers.

What an idiot this guy was. Every article printed would have to have "flaming lib" stamped on it.


350 posted on 09/13/2006 10:27:25 AM PDT by A.Hun (Common sense is no longer common.)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

"We were just bringing the cemetary more customers!"


351 posted on 09/13/2006 10:27:39 AM PDT by Sensei Ern (Nothing says security like the smell of gunpowder.)
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To: sofaman
So is Ed Schultz. He's on scAir America.
352 posted on 09/13/2006 10:27:40 AM PDT by Clint N. Suhks (If you don't love Jesus, you can go to hell.)
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To: American Quilter

It's called the LIEberal surcharge...must get used to it until all DUmocrats are removed from power in your state.


353 posted on 09/13/2006 10:27:54 AM PDT by RasterMaster (Winning Islamic hearts and minds.........one bullet at a time!)
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To: aligncare

And yet Jesse still draws breath.


354 posted on 09/13/2006 10:27:55 AM PDT by Roccus (Dealing with Democrats IS the War on Terror. (Stolen from FReeper Stallone))
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To: Kewlhand`tek; Prophet in the wilderness

In the past, it has been a continuation of the program,
news of the day, his opinions, etc. -- without commercials.

Usually about 45-48 minutes -- sometimes more.

IIRC he doesn't take phone calls, it's all Rush.


355 posted on 09/13/2006 10:27:56 AM PDT by NavySEAL F-16 (Proud to be a Reagan Republican)
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To: Sensei Ern

LOL!


356 posted on 09/13/2006 10:28:09 AM PDT by ChicagoConservative27
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To: ChicagoConservative27
since when is anything sacred to Islamonazis? They fire at our troops from Mosques, our troops fire back, and the media has a collective conniption that a Mosque was damaged...

The Islamonazis do their Moshpit immitation for the cameras..."Death to America" because they damaged a Holy Place...and the media plays along. They know the truth but choose to ignore it...

Yet when the Pallies took over the Curch (can't remember the name of the Church), toore up the Hymn books, crapped on the altar, peed all over the place, and generally destroyed the inside of the Church? Crickets....

357 posted on 09/13/2006 10:28:49 AM PDT by sofaman ("We will not tire. We will not falter. And we will not fail." Thank You, Mr President.)
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To: aligncare

900 DVDs were sent out to press and critics. Flavia is a moron.


358 posted on 09/13/2006 10:28:57 AM PDT by MaestroLC ("Let him who wants peace prepare for war."--Vegetius, A.D. Forth Century)
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To: sofaman

This PC crap has to stop. We need to be able to kill them anywhere.


359 posted on 09/13/2006 10:29:30 AM PDT by ChicagoConservative27
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To: RasterMaster
So of course all the Conservative Fingers will now go full steam to do everything they can to talk that number down. I have had it with the Political Suicide Club "Conservatives". They simply lack the intellectual or emotional discipline to be a majority party.
360 posted on 09/13/2006 10:30:29 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Say Leftists. How many Nazis did killing Nazis in WW2 create? Samurai? Fascists?)
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