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Rush Limbaugh Live Thread Wednesday 09-13-2006
RushLimbaugh.com ^ | 09-13-06

Posted on 09/13/2006 9:00:08 AM PDT by MNJohnnie

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1700725/posts

The enemy within -- and it's not who you think (David Warren nails Islamofascism's 5th column)

Ottawa Citizen - Canada ^ | September 13, 2006 | David Warren

Posted on 09/13/2006 10:43:18 AM CDT by GMMAC

The enemy within -- and it's not who you think

Ottawa Citizen September 13, 2006

COMMENTARY: DAVID WARREN

Listening to President Bush speak, on Monday's anniversary of 9/11, after a day of distastefully sentimental memorials, my question was not what have we achieved in the last five years, but rather, what have we learned? Bush and Blair -- the captain and vice-captain of Team West in the war against "the terrorists" so far -- are both now in the twilight of their political careers. Both have recently broken with habitual discretion, and made attempts to name the enemy. This has, if anything, added to their unpopularity, for when they mention that the enemy presents himself as Islamic, there are shrill cries not only from radical Muslims, but across the spectrum of the Left in the West.

Mr Bush, much the less eloquent of the two, has now retreated from his use of the term "Islamofascist" -- which as I said in a previous column, is a fairer label than "Islamist" for an enemy that spreads a palampore of traditional Islam, over a stuffing from the Western-bred totalitarian ideologies of the 20th century. As I wrote Aug. 27, from Ahmadinejad to Zawahiri, we hear rhetoric that uses an Islamic vocabulary and crude grammar, but animated with a syntax that owes more to Hitler, Stalin, and Mao, than to the Prophet and his traditional interpreters. The term is thus meant to suggest a skewed Islam, an Islam "adapted to our age" by psychopathic men, whose own Islamic learning is purposefully politicized, and aggressively de-spiritualized. Since the alternative would be to say that Ahmadinejad, Zawahiri, et al. do speak legitimately for Islam, I don't see why anyone should object to the term "Islamofascist".

Mr Blair gave an interview worth reading to the Israeli daily, Haaretz, published Monday. The editors present characterized it as "sombre". The British prime minister was still going through the motions of advocating the "peace process", and the "two-state solution" for Israel and Palestine, without (according to me) any real conviction that it could work. It is just something Western politicians do to please the figurative "Arab street", and it does not please anyone, any more. With much more conviction, he said leaders throughout the West have grasped that we are in a truly "global struggle", for which the people of the West are not prepared. The politicians have failed to explain to us how much is at stake, and how much will be lost if we are not resolute in defence of Western values.

For all its uncharacteristic awkwardness, Mr Blair's answer to a question about British home-grown terrorists donged the bell:

"It's not necessarily what have we done wrong, because part of the problem of what you have in Western opinion is that Western opinion always wants to believe that it's our fault and these people want to have a sort of, you know, grievance culture that they visit upon us and say it's our fault. And so we have a young British-born man of Pakistani origin sitting in front of a television screen saying I will go and kill innocent people because of the oppression of Muslims, when he has been brought up in a country that has given him complete religious freedom and full democratic rights and actually a very good job and standard of living. Now, that warped mind has grown out of a global movement based on a perversion of Islam which we have to confront, and we have to confront it globally."

I frankly admire both Bush and Blair, as courageous politicians, with open minds, doing their best within the limits of what is politically possible in their respective spheres. They are both towering figures, in comparison to the little men who oppose them. We won't know what trouble is, until the little men replace them.

I continue optimistic about what can be done, should we summon the will to do it. I have written repeatedly that a robust and unified Western response to "Islamofascism" could fling it quickly onto the trash-heap of history, to join Nasserism and Baathism and other earlier manifestations of Arab nationalism and socialism. Smack it hard, without apology.

My pessimism is founded in the fear that this robust and unified response cannot be mobilized. We have a huge fifth column in the West, and it is not the Muslim immigrants. They become radicalized only because our "victim culture" encourages them to nurture their grievances. Yet most, despite temptation, remain good, decent people, doing their share of the West's work.

Our real enemy is within us, in the immense constituency of the half-educated narcissists pouring from our universities each year -- that glib, smug, liberal, and defeatist "victim culture" itself, that inhabits the academy, our media, our legal establishment, the bureaucratic class. The opinion leaders of our society, who live almost entirely off the avails of taxation, make their livelihoods biting the hands that feed them, and undermining the moral order on which our solidarity depends.


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To: Fudd Fan

I'm sure Dan Rowan voted for Dutch too.


241 posted on 09/13/2006 9:55:39 AM PDT by sono (One Party is interested in confronting this threat - the other only in confronting Bush - Mark Steyn)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

There are time when O'Reily really just smashes the ball way out of the park.


242 posted on 09/13/2006 9:55:48 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Say Leftists. How many Nazis did killing Nazis in WW2 create? Samurai? Fascists?)
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To: A.Hun

I fully endorse the Hun ticket.


243 posted on 09/13/2006 9:56:03 AM PDT by Ingtar (Prensa dos para el inglés)
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To: AliVeritas

Freedom is not liscense!

Something I've been saying for many years.

Should be painted in large letters on the wall of every Senate, House and newsroom in the land!


244 posted on 09/13/2006 9:56:19 AM PDT by Roccus (Dealing with Democrats IS the War on Terror. (Stolen from FReeper Stallone))
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To: SE Mom

I guess the RATs aren't the only party that have a death wish.


245 posted on 09/13/2006 9:56:42 AM PDT by Fudd Fan (Some pray for peace; I pray for VICTORY that will ensure it.)
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To: American Quilter
The devil made me do it!

Rove made me do it.

246 posted on 09/13/2006 9:57:07 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Say Leftists. How many Nazis did killing Nazis in WW2 create? Samurai? Fascists?)
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To: AliVeritas
W should get Gonzales off his ass and start charging these clowns for sedition and treason.

Yep. That would do the trick for sure. It'd be a great thing to see, but it probably won't happen. Since what has been said and done by liberals to date and not even a threat to bring it on hasn't happened.

247 posted on 09/13/2006 9:57:10 AM PDT by b4its2late (I'm not insensitive, I just don't care.)
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To: A.Hun

I suppose I should have called your attention to #238.


248 posted on 09/13/2006 9:57:10 AM PDT by RasterMaster (Winning Islamic hearts and minds.........one bullet at a time!)
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To: Fudd Fan

"President Ronald Raaay-gun"


249 posted on 09/13/2006 9:57:16 AM PDT by Roccus (Dealing with Democrats IS the War on Terror. (Stolen from FReeper Stallone))
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To: Ingtar

We'll find a spot for you on the team!


250 posted on 09/13/2006 9:57:26 AM PDT by A.Hun (Common sense is no longer common.)
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To: RasterMaster

You got it Raster.


251 posted on 09/13/2006 9:57:52 AM PDT by A.Hun (Common sense is no longer common.)
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To: MNJohnnie

They need to go Lincoln and FDR like four years ago IMHO.


252 posted on 09/13/2006 9:57:59 AM PDT by AliVeritas (I meant what I said and I said what I meant. .. An elephant's faithful 100 percent.)
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To: MaestroLC

Rosie is a total STFU


253 posted on 09/13/2006 9:58:14 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Say Leftists. How many Nazis did killing Nazis in WW2 create? Samurai? Fascists?)
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To: MaestroLC
Lanny should apologize, but he wont because he has no shame and class.

Of course not. He was a Clinton shill throughout the 90s, and never acknowledged a single truth about them. He's just despicable, and that idiot smile he always wears makes me want to punch him.

254 posted on 09/13/2006 9:58:22 AM PDT by American Quilter (You can't negotiate with people who are dedicated to your destruction.)
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To: ChicagoConservative27
You got nothing and the Red Hot Chili Peppers isn't torture

Now if they were playing N'Sync on the other hand....

255 posted on 09/13/2006 9:58:29 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: AliVeritas

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1700764/posts?page=2#2

Ali- have you seen this? It's........beyond belief.


256 posted on 09/13/2006 9:59:11 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet-prayers for the kidnapped Israeli Soldiers)
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To: Sensei Ern
Air America to Declare Bankruptcy

Think Progress reports, mournfully, that Air America Radio will declare bankruptcy.

Air America Radio will announce a major restructuring on Friday, which is expected to include a bankruptcy filing, three independent sources have told ThinkProgress.

Air America could remain on the air under the deal, but significant personnel changes are already in the works. Sources say five Air America employees were laid off yesterday and were told there would be no severance without capital infusion or bankruptcy. Also, Air America has ended its relationship with host Jerry Springer.

The right wing is sure to seize on Air America’s financial woes as a sign that progressive talk radio is unpopular. In fact, Air America succeeded at creating something that didn’t exist: the progressive talk radio format. That format is now established and strong and will continue with or without Air America. Indeed, many of the country’s most successful and widely-syndicated progressive talk hosts — Ed Schultz and Stephanie Miller, for instance — aren’t even associated with Air America.

257 posted on 09/13/2006 9:59:40 AM PDT by MaestroLC ("Let him who wants peace prepare for war."--Vegetius, A.D. Forth Century)
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To: A.Hun

Can I be CJC??


258 posted on 09/13/2006 9:59:40 AM PDT by acsrp38 (Found: WMD Saddam didn't have before he didn't have them)
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To: SE Mom

Doesn't Hot Air tend towards hyperbole?


259 posted on 09/13/2006 9:59:58 AM PDT by Roccus (Dealing with Democrats IS the War on Terror. (Stolen from FReeper Stallone))
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To: All
7 hours till Dancing With The Stars ALERT!

Loser!

If you want on or off the Dancing With The Stars ping list please FReepmail Sensei Ern's Poms!

260 posted on 09/13/2006 10:00:06 AM PDT by Clint N. Suhks (If you don't love Jesus, you can go to hell.)
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