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To: GMMAC
...we have a young British-born man of Pakistani origin sitting in front of a television screen saying I will go and kill innocent people because of the oppression of Muslims, when he has been brought up in a country that has given him complete religious freedom and full democratic rights and actually a very good job and standard of living..

That's the point... Islamic facists DO NOT want democratic rights and complete religious freedom. They want the whole world to be ruled by an oppressive Islamic theocracy with forced conversion to Islam for all unbelievers.

9 posted on 09/13/2006 9:06:02 AM PDT by The Great RJ ("Mir wölle bleiwen wat mir sin" or "We want to remain what we are." ..Luxembourg motto)
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To: The Great RJ
The problem with our war on Islamofacism is we fail to address the issue of the nation states (Iran, Syria, North Korea, the defacto Nation State of Hezzbolo in Southern Lebanon etc. When we only go after the terrorists and not the nation state that supports them we will lose. Only when the rogue nation state is in fear of its destruction will they stop their support of Islamofacism. The destruction of Iran's ruling class would not be that difficult. Kill them and let the people of Iran finish the job. If that means massive strategic bombing with conventional weapons or tactical nukes so be it.

We did not start this war. In WWII we were in a fight for survival. The greatest acts of terror were carried out by the RAF and the United States Army Air Corp. The Brits burned Dresden to the ground. The United States fire bombed Tokyo and other major cities of Japan. This terror worked and broke the back of the enemy. The nukes dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki were minor terror raids as compared to our fire bombing. It worked! They lost, we won.

We are fighting this war on the terms laid down by the enemy. George Patton sure as hell did not ask Rommel what tactics he could and could not use. Patton understood that the war machine of the enemy must be destroyed and the civilian population was what feed, clothed and made the tools of war for its army. The civilians were thus legitimate targets. When the enemy knows he will lose his wife, his children, his country and his life he will not oppose you.We are in a fight for the survival of western civilization

14 posted on 09/13/2006 9:36:39 AM PDT by cpdiii (Socialism is popular with the ruling class. It gives legitimacy to tyranny and despotism.)
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