To: John Carey
"the most flagrantly dishonest scenes: Bill Clinton's national security adviser Sandy Berger slamming down the phone on a fictional CIA operative pleading for permission to attack Osama bin Laden in the spring of 1998"
Umm...How is this exactly dishonest? IIRC, in Lt. Col. Patterson's fine book "Dereliction of Duty: The Eyewitness Account of How Bill Clinton Compromised America's National Security" this actually happened (maybe not in that exact way, but the opportunity to squish UBL was rejected). So, I guess Ruth's calling more people liars than the writers of "The Path to 9/11."
IMHO, the only glaring problem with the movie was that Richard Clarke was portrayed as some sort of goody goody superman.
To: Constantine XI Palaeologus
Umm...How is this exactly dishonest? IIRC, in Lt. Col. Patterson's fine book "Dereliction of Duty: The Eyewitness Account of How Bill Clinton Compromised America's National Security" this actually happened (maybe not in that exact way, but the opportunity to squish UBL was rejected). So, I guess Ruth's calling more people liars than the writers of "The Path to 9/11."
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The hangup scene was an ad lib by the actor, not part of the script. And it should have been cut - it makes it look like Sandy the Burgler is the problem when it is Bill Clinton's refusal to take responsibility for the takedown of Bin Ladin that is the problem. Bubba talked about making tough choices, but he didn't to actually MAKE them - might hurt the legacy, don't you know.
Burgler shouldn't have been National Security Adviser, but Clinton gave him the job. I know of no reason to believe Burgler didn't WANT to do a good job, so accept that. And then trash him for failing, not for not trying.
24 posted on
09/13/2006 1:06:14 AM PDT by
Cheburashka
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To: Constantine XI Palaeologus
Umm...How is this exactly dishonest? IIRC, in Lt. Col. Patterson's fine book "Dereliction of Duty: The Eyewitness Account of How Bill Clinton Compromised America's National Security" this actually happened (maybe not in that exact way, but the opportunity to squish UBL was rejected) The portrayal was wrong.
The actual telephone was green, not black.
Can't believe anything in the miniseries after a gaff that serious doncha know. :)
On a more serious note, I thought the series glossed over a few important facts. IE,
'The Wall'. I don't recall any mention of who and when 'the wall' was instituted.
39 posted on
09/13/2006 4:31:16 AM PDT by
Vinnie
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