Reborn [Pill reverses "vegetative state"]

The Guardian (UK) ^ | September 12, 2006 | by Steve Boggan

[onyx]

I hope it's permanent.

[STARWISE]

Deena Burnett .. NOW ON CSPAN-2!

[BigSkyFreeper]

Here's to your ill health and untimely demise...

It's comments like that that turn people off. Keep thinking in your mind that people take you seriously. They're not.

[Orange1998]

Don't take it so personal. It's like some scent is released for the Calvary.

[Howlin]

Quit trying to attribute that to me. Read my posts to Howlin. I responded to her untasteful disgusting abuse of Terri's name.

Ah, did you or did you not just say this:

...and then noticed you just sort of jumped in and started swingin at everyone...

I can't decide whether you really can't remember what you've just posted, or are just being disengenuous.

[antceecee]

Okay... truce... Fine to jump in on that, but why misuse a dead woman's name in the process? Do you understand how despicable that is? Terri wasn't the one posting that crap.

[Howlin]

People who speak for Terri were the ones posting "that crap," as you say.

[antceecee]

All I noticed is things were moving along and the discussion was fine and then you posted the trigger word which I'm sure you knew would flame things. But then again that's what you are so good at.

[antceecee]

I don't agree with those people Howlin.
They don't speak for me.

[antceecee]

I don't agree with those people Howlin.
They don't speak for me.

[Howlin]

All I noticed is things were moving along and the discussion was fine

Fine? Somebody said they hoped Hildy died!

Fine, my butt.

[MHGinTN]

Allow me to offer soemthing.

In the article, one patient had not responded for five years, yet the gaba blocking action allowed structure that was there to respond. Terri had been responsive for many years though only minimally and in a declining pattern toward the end of her life. If the brain begins to shrink, areas of the brain lose their responsiveness to input, whole tissue complexes disappear, thus actual structure is gone. I think this is to what the retired doctor was referring.

[fatima]

You seem to have a grudge?

[Howlin]

They speak for ALL people who want to discuss abortion and/or death on this forum.

[unspun]

It's a standard medical term. There are other medical terms that don't necessarily describe things well either, but continue to be used because everyone knows them. If zolpidem proves effective in what is clearly PVS, the term will change, believe me.

Thanks. It is a disgraceful, Nazi-like medical term when applied to a human being, which should shame everyone in the medical practices.

[onyx]

The thread went nasty right here in post #5.

[onyx]

I'm watching. Thanks. :)

[freedumb2003]

"It was just my orders sir" is no excuse.

Following the law is always the proper course of action. Especially when the facts are ambiguous.

[retMD]

2. Does the patient's brain have to be basically anatomically intact?

what does "basically anatomically intact" require

I hesitate to bring it up, seeing the reactions of various people here. I was thinking of Terri Schiavo, among others. There are brain-injured people whose brain appears basically intact on CT scan, but hers showed severe atrophy.

[STARWISE]

WOW ... he really touched so many people, didn't he? He truly was a godly man.