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1 posted on 09/11/2006 5:21:34 PM PDT by SwinneySwitch
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To: SwinneySwitch

There is no excuse for this shameful waste of valuable assets.


2 posted on 09/11/2006 5:31:58 PM PDT by Yo-Yo (USAF, TAC, 12th AF, 366 TFW, 366 MG, 366 CRS, Mtn Home AFB, 1978-81)
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To: SwinneySwitch

Here is a little more info and interesting comments at this site:

http://aeroweb.brooklyn.cuny.edu/specs/slingsby/t-3a.htm


3 posted on 09/11/2006 5:42:11 PM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Seeking the truth here folks.)
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..Not quite like the story says. The spontaneous fuel shutdown problem could never be corrected by the airplane or powerplant manufacturers.

The engine would be repeatedly started and stopped (they are trainers). During the summer, the engine would vapor lock. The T-3's engine had failed 66 times at takeoff or landing (pressure and temp differential and changes in manifold pressure possible exacerbated by altitude).

What would prevent it from happening in the air? It probably did during the three fatal crashes although two were attributed to pilot error and one to an "out of envelope" excursion.

The predecessor T-41 had no fatal accidents in 30 years of flight, it just wasn't as aerobatic.

5 posted on 09/11/2006 5:46:17 PM PDT by pfflier
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I bid on the destruction of the t3-A's at Hondo (106) and (4) in California the aircraft were purchased to replace the old Cessna's with planes that could withstand aerobatic maneuvers. each plane cost about 230,000 dollars and the contractor that got the distruction bid was (total metal re cycler) and their bid was 12,000. Our govt at work. The destuction must be complete and done in one month.
6 posted on 09/11/2006 5:48:52 PM PDT by bdfromlv (Leavenworth hard time)
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With the T-6 Texan, they must've decided the T-3 wasn't worth keeping. Fine, get rid of them responsibly, don't just let them sit there and rust.

Of course, we're talking about the same bunch of AETC clowns that took a great fleet of T-38s and nickel-and-dimed them into something downright dangerous.

8 posted on 09/11/2006 6:02:07 PM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity ("A litany of complaints is not a plan." - GW Bush, referring to DNC's lack of a platform on ANYTHING)
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Sell 'em. Then someone will get injured and sue. This just just another bunch of lawyers looking for income.


9 posted on 09/11/2006 6:51:22 PM PDT by gcruse (http://gcruse.typepad.com)
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When I went through Hondo, we flew the T-41, which is the wonderful Cessna 172.

Flight screening does a good job of weeding out folks who have no business going to Air Force pilot training. Back then, everyone went to the T-37 and then the T-38. It is expensive to send a student pilot through that program, only to learn you have to wash them out after weeks or even months.

The C-172 did a good job, but some people complained that you needed an aerobatic trainer in order to separate out folks who would get airsick, or who just couldn't handle the demanding regiment of AF pilot training. Acrobatics is hard work - energy management isn't easy, and thinking in 3-D while flying a jet isn't for everyone.

The problem was the T-3 was, and is, a pig. And a dangerous one.

They should have just purchased more C-172s and left it up to instructors in the T-37 to "make the call" early if students couldn't handle Air Force flying.

10 posted on 09/11/2006 6:52:28 PM PDT by SkyPilot
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