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To: sam_paine

not quite.

Trusted traveler still has their TTID scaned and their picture and fingerprints are on file.

Having passed through customs a few times and having seen their system. I can tell you it is not pre 9/11.


2,434 posted on 09/12/2006 8:24:16 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: longtermmemmory
I can tell you it is not pre-9/11.

I never said it was pre 9/11.

Having brought it up, though, I think GW would agree with me that it is in fact pre-mm/dd of the NEXT attack.

The 9/11 terrorists got through pre-9/11 security by simply filling out the correct forms and smiling at the security camera. The next terrorists will get through in the same manner....by simply using our freedoms against us.

"Trusted Traveller" and all that "ATM Security" garbage is NOT the way. Snooping bomb-maker phones, flying hellfire missiles in Pakistan, JDAMing terrorist training camps, and most of all, alert low-level agents and citizens.....these will make us safe.

2,441 posted on 09/12/2006 11:39:18 AM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: longtermmemmory

re: Trusted Traveller

You got me thinking again. (Shame on you!) What would have kept Mohammad Atta (etal) off the Trusted Traveller list?

I have a friend who had the same name as a terrorist, and he just filled out a form that said he's not a terrorist, and he was removed from the airline watchlist.

We focus on the machines to check your ID....but we haven't talked at all about whose ID gets put on "the checklist" and who can be taken off.

If I just wanted to make people "feel" safe, I'd put expensive fancy machines out on the floor. If I wanted to make people "BE" safe, I'd profile and sneak-n-peak and put out a watchlist at topless bars and radio shacks and such!


2,442 posted on 09/12/2006 12:12:41 PM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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