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To: FreedomCalls
Were they the two F-16s that took off without a weapons load? If it came down to it they were going to have to ram the plane and then eject.

I can't answer the weapons question, but I doubt they were heading that way to whistle dixie (with apologies to Clint Eastwood). I think that they meant business, but weapons load wasn't visible.

1,722 posted on 09/11/2006 7:28:17 PM PDT by meyer (A vote for amnesty is a vote against America.)
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To: meyer
I found this:
(10:42 a.m.): Andrews Fighters Finally Take Off, but Without Missiles
Two F-16s take off from Andrews Air Force Base lightly armed with nothing more than “hot” guns and non-explosive training rounds. Lead pilot Lieutenant Colonel Marc Sasseville flies one; the other pilot is only known by the codename Lucky. [Aviation Week and Space Technology, 9/9/2002] These fighters had been at another base that morning, waiting to be armed with AIM-9 missiles, a process that takes about an hour. [Aviation Week and Space Technology, 6/3/2002] Since they took off without the missiles, presumably they could have taken off unarmed much earlier. (The first call for them to scramble came not long after 9:00 a.m.). Two more F-16s, armed with AIM-9 missiles, take off twenty-seven minutes later, at 11:09 a.m. These are apparently piloted by Major Dan Caine and Captain Brandon Rasmussen. [Aviation Week and Space Technology, 9/9/2002; 9/11 Commission, 6/17/2004] F-16s from Richmond, Virginia, and Atlantic City, New Jersey, arrive over Washington a short time later. [Aviation Week and Space Technology, 9/9/2002] The Andrews fighters are apparently the only fighters in the US scrambled before 11:00 with official shootdown authorization, but the first Andrews fighters into the air have no missiles. It is unclear if the Andrews fighters relaunching a few minutes earlier had shootdown orders, but they had no weapons either. It appears the Andrews fighters launching at 11:09 a.m. are the first fighters in the US with both shootdown orders and missiles to use.

1,772 posted on 09/11/2006 7:33:36 PM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: meyer

YES They Will Ram.
Yes They Were/Are Armed.


1,803 posted on 09/11/2006 7:36:27 PM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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