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Brothers hog-tie, burn puppy to death for fun
Veterinarians' Action ^ | 9/11/06

Posted on 09/11/2006 8:19:17 AM PDT by pabianice

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To: Salamander

>>I feel especially blessed that I'm not a member of whatever church you attend.
Sure must be a cold, heartless one. <<

When it comes to animals, you may be correct to some degree. Animal welfare has NEVER been the issue of any sermon I have ever heard at any church I have attended. Assuming you are familiar with the Bible, why is that do you suppose?


241 posted on 09/13/2006 8:42:19 AM PDT by RobRoy (Islam is more dangerous to the world now that Naziism was in 1937.)
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To: Old_Mil
>>Your comments are an excellent illustration why democracy just doesn't work well anymore.<<

Um, democracy never works. It is also called "mobocracy". Constitutional republics tend to have a longer lifespan though.
242 posted on 09/13/2006 8:44:06 AM PDT by RobRoy (Islam is more dangerous to the world now that Naziism was in 1937.)
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To: mitch5501

Your post points out that people got attached to animals in biblical times. They still do. Heck, I do as well. But intellectually, I know what they are - animals. Their motives are different than the motives of humans. They are automatons - living machines that present a shadow of the spirit within humans. They are not humans.


243 posted on 09/13/2006 8:46:37 AM PDT by RobRoy (Islam is more dangerous to the world now that Naziism was in 1937.)
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To: New Girl

>>I don't know if I am more saddened by the actions of these boys or by the posters on these threads who appear to be lacking the most basic human emotion of compassion.<<

One can have a great deal of compassion for humans and none for animals, once one uses ones intellect. I know of not one instance where Jesus shed a tear over the suffering of an animal. I suspect He knew whether they feel pain.


244 posted on 09/13/2006 8:48:03 AM PDT by RobRoy (Islam is more dangerous to the world now that Naziism was in 1937.)
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To: RobRoy
You may very well be right about the pain thing. Perhaps, animals do not feel pain the way we do. I know that my own dog howls if his foot is accidentally stepped on. I can't imagine how he would react if he were baked in an oven. I'd rather see animals treated humanely since nobody really knows for sure exactly what animals feel or perceive. Why take the chance? How do you KNOW for sure? Isn't it better to be safe? Also, I don't know of instances where Jesus tortured animals or condoned the torturing of of animals. I'll take my cue from St. Francis of Assisi.

We will have to agree to disagree regarding our views on this subject. I'm just glad that most people do care about the welfare of animals. Otherwise, this world would be a miserable place. When a person lacks compassion for the defenseless and the weak, something is seriously wrong. Serial killers and rapists often start out torturing and killing small animals. It's a control thing and it's also a sickness.

245 posted on 09/13/2006 12:33:43 PM PDT by New Girl
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To: New Girl

I firmly believe people should treat animals with compassion. I think people should keep their lawns trimmed as well. I just don't think it is the gov's business. It is not why the government was created. It is scope creep.


246 posted on 09/13/2006 1:28:44 PM PDT by RobRoy (Islam is more dangerous to the world now that Naziism was in 1937.)
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To: dfwgator

Absolutely right! It's proven people who show cruelty to animals move on to humans. They've got to do some serious jail time. Can you imagine what kind of sick individual it takes to follow through with this, the fact that neither of them came to their senses to stop the other one and the fact that they bragged about it, holding tours of the tortured dead puppy. UNBELIEVABLE!!! IT MAKES ME SICK TO MY STOMACH!!!!!!


247 posted on 12/15/2006 9:41:23 AM PST by sabrinaz (Sickness runs in the family)
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To: pabianice
People who are serial killers of humans always start with animals.

These people are irredeemable.

248 posted on 12/15/2006 9:42:39 AM PST by Lazamataz (That's the spirit.)
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To: ritewingwarrior
Arrest their parents also since one is 17. The parents are to blame for such terrible kids.

Arrest everyone in America. America is to blame too.

249 posted on 12/15/2006 9:43:50 AM PST by Lazamataz (That's the spirit.)
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To: Raymann
This is ridiculous, y’all want to lock them up for a “crime” in which NO ONE had their rights violated. Yes what they did was sick and disgusting and there is no way in hell I’d ever want to be in the same room as them but they did not hurt anyone. At best they should be fined for destruction of property and only if it wasn’t their dog...or oven.

The correllation between this act and serial killing is this very high.

Think of it as a retroactive abortion of a diseased fetus.

250 posted on 12/15/2006 9:50:24 AM PST by Lazamataz (That's the spirit.)
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To: Gay State Conservative
Psychopaths in the making.

There is a clearly understood profile of serial killers. These guys have hit two of the three indicators.

Some serial killers display one or more of what are known as the "MacDonald triad" of warning signs in childhood. These are:

* Fire starting, invariably just for the thrill of destroying things.

* Cruelty to animals (related to "zoosadism"). Many children may be cruel to animals, such as pulling the legs off spiders, but future serial killers often kill larger animals, like dogs and cats, and frequently for their solitary enjoyment rather than to impress peers.

* Bedwetting beyond the age when children normally grow out of such behavior.

251 posted on 12/15/2006 9:52:42 AM PST by IamConservative (Any man who agrees with you on everything, also lies to others.)
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To: pabianice

Put them in jail, now. And keep them there.


252 posted on 12/15/2006 9:53:41 AM PST by rintense (Liberals stand for nothing and are against everything- unless it benefits them.)
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To: pabianice

Strip'em, cover 'em with hamburger meat and put them in a cage with the hybrid off-spring of 40 dobermans and pit bulls that normally guard junkyards and haven't eaten in five days.


253 posted on 12/15/2006 9:59:16 AM PST by N. Theknow ((Kennedys - Can't drive, can't fly, can't ski, can't skipper a boat - But they know what's best.))
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To: pabianice

These animals should be set on fire.
At the very least, they should be thrown into prison where copies of news reports are given to the other inmates.


254 posted on 12/15/2006 10:04:43 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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