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Meet the No Planers. They believe there weren't any planes on 9/11, just missiles
Brendan O'Neill.com from New Statesman ^ | September 11, 2006 | By Brendan O'Neill.

Posted on 09/11/2006 7:10:10 AM PDT by aculeus

Edited on 09/12/2006 3:52:54 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

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To: aculeus

I deliberately didn't answer that question. A typical 9/11 nutbar's questions contain either an unfounded accusation or an outright lie.

To answer that question in any way would be to agree that there were "tapes held back" (which I don't know any more than they do), and it wouldn't matter what was released anyway. The mere existence of a high-resolution tape would feed into the "foreknowledge" fantasy. I an hear it already---how would they have known to stand in a certain spot and film everything just right, if they hadn't KNOWN AHEAD OF TIME that a missile disguised as a plane was coming in at a preset time?


141 posted on 09/11/2006 5:53:26 PM PDT by hellinahandcart
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To: american spirit

Morgan Reynolds and Barrie Zwicker were featured in a segment on Brit Hume's show tonight. It repeats at midnight if you want to see it yourself.

Your boy said the attacks of 9/11 were "a psy-op". He said "It was all a hoax". Jim Angle then stated that Reymolds believes that no airliners hit any buildings that day, which is confirmed by Reynold's own website.

Reynolds went on to explain the difference between LIHOP and MIHOP (though he pronounced them "lee-hop" and "me-hop", which I thought was fairly amusing).

He then stated his belief about the attacks, that "it's about oil, Israel, and logistics for the global domination project." And that it had to be an inside job by the White House, as no one else could get the access necessary to the buildings in order to pull off the hoax.

Do you consider these ravings to be an indication of Morgan Reynolds' "intelligence?"

Do you even consider them to be original? Oil, Israel, world domination?


142 posted on 09/11/2006 6:04:13 PM PDT by hellinahandcart
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To: american spirit
Does an intelligent grown man put pictures like this on his website, and still expect to be taken seriously?


143 posted on 09/11/2006 6:17:48 PM PDT by hellinahandcart
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To: aculeus

How much did you see?.....a split second of the final impact?
Just have them show all of the confiscated tapes and we can move on.


144 posted on 09/11/2006 7:10:14 PM PDT by american spirit
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To: hellinahandcart

One thing you seem to keep omitting is the fact he was Chief Economist of the Labor Dept. during the first term of the BUSH ADMINISTRATION......now if he was the loon you paint him to be wouldn't one of those brainiacs figured that out early on? I sure don't remember any public attacks his integrity, intelligence or the work he did for them.......guess he sure snookered them now didn't he?


145 posted on 09/11/2006 7:14:44 PM PDT by american spirit
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To: aculeus
I don't see any difference between these people and some Conspiracy Theorists discussing the JFK assassination.
146 posted on 09/11/2006 7:27:27 PM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (Vote a Straight Republican Ballot. Rid the country of dems. NRA)
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To: aculeus
just missiles wrapped in holograms

Bwahahaha! That would be good technology to have.

147 posted on 09/11/2006 7:29:50 PM PDT by pollyannaish
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To: Grendel9
We can't make it to the moon, but we can create airplane holograms to disguise missiles.

Yep. Makes perfect sense.
148 posted on 09/11/2006 7:31:50 PM PDT by pollyannaish
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To: hellinahandcart; american spirit
Reynolds is a loon if he believes that.

Two things I have a problem with, if 9/11 were an "inside job" then why couldn't the perpetrators of such a grandiose conspiracy "find" WMDs in Iraq?

Second, although less convincing, is could a President who shed genuine tears at his inauguration take part in a massive conspiracy to murder thousands of Americans?
149 posted on 09/11/2006 8:06:31 PM PDT by streetpreacher (What if you're wrong?)
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To: american spirit
One thing you seem to keep omitting is the fact he was Chief Economist of the Labor Dept. during the first term of the BUSH ADMINISTRATION......

A. I did not omit it.

B. Big freaking deal if he was. Why is that such a stamp of approval for you?

150 posted on 09/12/2006 2:51:14 AM PDT by hellinahandcart
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To: american spirit
Forgot C.---you do not answer direct questions, then or now.

Forget about his resume. What is your assessment of his competence, based on the CONTENT of the articles on his website?

151 posted on 09/12/2006 3:01:51 AM PDT by hellinahandcart
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To: mc5cents

Many people believe that the towers were destroyed. They just can't be seen anymore because of holograms....It was part of an incredible special effects team from Hollywood used to make a highly suspensful thriller movie /s

Maybe it's good that they have't been rebuilt. It's hard to argue that nothing happened! Just wait 50 years from now, just like the revisionists did with the holocaust!


152 posted on 09/12/2006 3:24:03 AM PDT by beaware (Who cares about the caribou! Drill in ANWAR!)
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To: hellinahandcart

No.......you're the one dodging the issue here.....as highly placed a person as he was in this gov't. you mean to tell me he could fool everybody into thinking he was competent enough to have a position like that while 'on the side' being a closet loon like you paint him to be? As I said (and how many more times do you have to be told before it sinks in) that there are some things from him and others I do not pay attention to or buy into......any more than you would or others would agree 100% with Bush, Cheney or anybody else on. If you wish to continue believing into the little guy in a cave theory be my guest.


153 posted on 09/12/2006 7:30:26 AM PDT by american spirit
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To: american spirit; sauropod
No.......you're the one dodging the issue here.....as highly placed a person as he was in this gov't. you mean to tell me he could fool everybody into thinking he was competent enough to have a position like that while 'on the side' being a closet loon like you paint him to be?

You know what? If you gave it ten seconds of actual thought, you just might stumble onto the likelihood that

NONE OF THIS SH*T CAME UP DURING HIS JOB INTERVIEW WITH THE LABOR DEPARTMENT!

If it had, do you really think he would have gotten the job and title you're so uncommonly enamored of?

And I'm not "painting" Reynolds as a loon. He made a free-will choice to put on a loon suit and start belting out the Call of the Loon. No one held a gun to his head. I owe him no deference simply because he worked in the Bush administration for a while.

As I said (and how many more times do you have to be told before it sinks in) that there are some things from him and others I do not pay attention to or buy into

And yet you won't say what you do pay attention to or do buy into. Even when asked repeatedly. You just drop your snide little insinuations onto threads and try to act innocent.

You're not very convincing.

154 posted on 09/12/2006 7:53:39 AM PDT by hellinahandcart
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To: hellinahandcart

Neither are you and I'll say it for the last time....if he's as whacked out as you think it would've manifested itself during his time with the Dept. of Labor......and you seem to be incapable of understanding that we all may have fundamental agreements and disagreements with those in the public eye....why is that?


155 posted on 09/12/2006 8:09:45 AM PDT by american spirit
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To: theDentist
Funny how these conspiracy theorists never explain what happened to the passengers of the planes if it in fact were missiles...

Living lives of luxury on a small island in the Carribean.

156 posted on 09/12/2006 8:10:46 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (The state board will meet in closed session to discuss whether it violated an open meetings law)
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To: american spirit
if he's as whacked out as you think it would've manifested itself during his time with the Dept. of Labor

How do you know it didn't?

And "As whacked out as *I* think"? I don't know anyone who could read his website and watch his performance on FOX last night and not end up thinking "whack job". Well, maybe you could.

and you seem to be incapable of understanding that we all may have fundamental agreements and disagreements with those in the public eye....why is that?

I have no problem understanding it. You're the one who can't seem to understand why others are not as awed by a bureaucrat's title as you are.

As for those "fundamental agreements and disagreements with those in the public eye", you won't ever come right out and state what yours are. No, you'll just recommend that people watch "Loose Change", praise Morgan Reynolds' intelligence, and scoff at the "little guy billionaire in a cave" theory, and then you'll make like a clam. You're a coward.

157 posted on 09/12/2006 8:34:58 AM PDT by hellinahandcart
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To: american spirit
Hey, look who else recommends "Loose Change":

Imam Zulqarnain Sakandar Madni answered questions from the newspaper's readers. "There's some good evidence that (U.S. President George) Bush and company were behind this," he said. "See the film that's called 'Loose Change.' An American film!" He also said he doubts that al-Qaida and Osama bin Laden exist.

The company you keep...

158 posted on 09/12/2006 8:43:12 AM PDT by hellinahandcart
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To: american spirit; hellinahandcart

Some people are perfectly "functional" in their jobs while believing totally fringe stuff.

I work with at least 2 such people.

The point about Reynolds is if he is spouting this stuff (which is unbelievable), you have to question his judgment.

And yes, I do question the judgment of my two co-workers.


159 posted on 09/12/2006 9:14:31 AM PDT by sauropod (Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys." PJO)
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To: sauropod

To be clear, what he is spouting is unbelievable.


160 posted on 09/12/2006 9:21:12 AM PDT by sauropod (Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys." PJO)
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