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Situation Called Dire in West Iraq: Anbar Is Lost Politically, Marine Analyst Says
The Washington Post ^ | September 11, 2006 | Thomas E. Ricks

Posted on 09/11/2006 7:08:35 AM PDT by taylorstreet

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To: pierrem15
Roughly the size of North Carolina, Anbar is the largest province by area in Iraq and is home for between 1.3 million and 1.4 million people, mostly gathered in the Euphrates River valley. The largest city and provincial capital - and his command's biggest challenge -- is Ramadi.

Iraq has a population of approximately 25 million. If there is a problem, it must be put in context.

41 posted on 09/11/2006 7:32:33 AM PDT by kabar
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To: houeto

Don't forget that this is the WaPo reporter that has a book on the market blasting the "failures" in Iraq. The book's title - FIASCO. But he has NO agenda (sarc)


42 posted on 09/11/2006 7:32:37 AM PDT by Chickenhawk Warmonger (All aboard the Chickenhawk Express... www.chickenhawkexpress.blogspot.com)
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To: SoFloFreeper
It doesn't sound like to me the "reporter" asked many questions, but just RAN with the bad news.

Bingo.

With a "twist, twist" here and a "spin, spin" there...

43 posted on 09/11/2006 7:34:38 AM PDT by Allegra (Home, Sweet Home!)
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To: taylorstreet

Believe the Washington Post at your peril.


44 posted on 09/11/2006 7:34:53 AM PDT by verity (The MSM is comprised of useless eaters)
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To: taylorstreet

Think of all the other "leaks" to WaPo before you buy into this stuff...


45 posted on 09/11/2006 7:35:53 AM PDT by DesScorp
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To: Tennessean4Bush

From what I've read it is basically pretty quiet. There was an article that came out a few weeks ago that talked about the Islamists posting flyers which threatened to take back Fallujah and the comments from the people who were interviewed were surprisingly upbeat. Additionally, this news article talks about no functioning Iraqi institutions, but that is wrong because the Iraqi Army is functioning and it is doing a pretty good job. The effectiveness of the Iraqi Army has particularly been reflected in their ability to support the Iraqi police, who have within the last year begun to stand up to the insurgents. Strategypage noted in this regard, that the Iraqi police had not lost an Iraqi police station to the insurgents in months. Formerly, that sort of loss occurred on a monthly basis.


46 posted on 09/11/2006 7:37:14 AM PDT by vbmoneyspender
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To: Brilliant

In late 2005 we got a whole bunch of tribal chiefs in Western Iraq to come to the table and talk to us about ways of helping to drive al-Qaeda from Western Iraq.

Sadly, we didn't have the forces to protect them and just about everyone of the tribal chiefs who met with us was killed by al-Qaeda. Now we have almost no allies in Anbar who will come to the table and work with us.


47 posted on 09/11/2006 7:39:54 AM PDT by jmc1969
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To: RexBeach

It's not. It's pretty right-on, unfortunatley.


48 posted on 09/11/2006 7:44:51 AM PDT by Shery (in APO Land)
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To: vbmoneyspender
Fallujah is currently kind of status quo. When the Marines are there everyone is nice. When they leave the bad guys a right back in business. Very spooky place. When all the natives disappear it means the $hit is about to start. They all know.
49 posted on 09/11/2006 7:45:16 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Never corner anything meaner than you. NSDQ)
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To: kabar
You're right: any town of consequence is situated along the Euphrates.

The bigger context that the MSM never brings up is that we and the Iraqi Army have acted as the hammer in driving the Sunni insurgents towards Baghdad.

This has meant that the Shia civilian population (and to a lesser extent, the Kurds) have acted as the anvil.

Look at the patterns of violence over the past several months: almost all of it in or near Baghdad.

50 posted on 09/11/2006 7:46:07 AM PDT by pierrem15 (Charles Martel: past and future of France)
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To: muawiyah

U R correct but it is scum bag breeding ground zero.


51 posted on 09/11/2006 7:46:28 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Never corner anything meaner than you. NSDQ)
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To: mad_as_he$$

After the 2004 election we should have put in an extra division or two in Anbar and finished the problem. Because, we didn't we are going to have to do it after this election or we will be hearing about al-Qaeda in Iraq for a very long time.


52 posted on 09/11/2006 7:46:58 AM PDT by jmc1969
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To: RexBeach
Alot of it yes. Unfortunately.
53 posted on 09/11/2006 7:47:35 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Never corner anything meaner than you. NSDQ)
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To: vbmoneyspender

After first being ordered by the White House, the initial assault on Fallujah was called off by the same politicians who had called for it in the first place. In the intervening months, the insurgency all over Al-Anbar grew like a weed because they had "defeated the Marines". Ramadi has never been cleaned out and remains today a source of much of the support for the fighting in Al -Anbar and Baghdad.


54 posted on 09/11/2006 7:48:03 AM PDT by JeeperFreeper
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To: Shery

Can we fix it? Or does that job belong to the Iraqi Army?


55 posted on 09/11/2006 7:48:23 AM PDT by RexBeach (Will Rogers Never Met Bill Clinton.)
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To: Axhandle

Exactly: Stop farting around and destroy the whokle friggin place. Make it look like Hiroshima and leave. let Al Quaeda have the smoking ruins.


56 posted on 09/11/2006 7:48:34 AM PDT by sgtbono2002 (The fourth estate is a fifth column.)
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To: Allegra

Good to see you back home, Allegra! Now you can see how the media spins things up close and first-hand.


57 posted on 09/11/2006 7:52:01 AM PDT by reagan_fanatic (In loving memory of those lost on 9/11)
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To: taylorstreet
So what's the problem?

Level the place and do so with a clear conscience!

58 posted on 09/11/2006 7:56:27 AM PDT by Gritty (What's at issue in the Iraq war is not the future of Iraq but the future of America - Mark Steyn)
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To: Chickenhawk Warmonger
Yes, I remember him, isn't he the one who said that Israeli Generals were letting rockets hit their towns to get sympathy while they were killing civilians in Lebanon?
59 posted on 09/11/2006 8:00:06 AM PDT by roses of sharon
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To: mad_as_he$$
...."Fallujah is currently kind of status quo"......

Last I heard, people were actually moving there from elsewhere. Security is VERY tight there and the people want to be where the bombers aren't. Also money and jobs are flowing there now that everything isn't blowing up.

60 posted on 09/11/2006 8:01:22 AM PDT by chuckles
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