Tortured screams ring out as Iraqis take over Abu Ghraib

Telegraph.co.uk ^ | 10/09/2006 | Ali Saber in Baghdad and Gethin Chamberlain

[MissAmericanPie]

"Some of the small number of prisoners who remained in the jail after the Americans left said they had pleaded to go with their departing captors, rather than be left in the hands of Iraqi guards".

While I don't doubt that conditions are not a picnic in this prison, I would like to point out as I did when the determination was made to invade Iraq and become deeply involved in the Middle East. We have entered the twilight zone in that area of the world. This area of the world has been from ancient times a place, a culture, of malevolent intrigue.

In America the truth is important and carries great weight, in the Middle East the lie and manipulation carries great weight and lying for Allah is looked on as a virtue. It would be no surprise that these screams were orchestrated.

I remember as we watched the crowds of Palestinians carrying their dead martyr in his coffin to the grave yard when they accidentally dropped him and he jumped up and ran away, not the last such incident. When dealing with culture that holds that lying for Allah is a virtue, when a cleric makes the claim that "Allah is the greatest deceiver of them all", nothing but the opposite of what is put forward as the truth should be believed.

Their Allah is the 180 of our Lord, that would make the God they worship, no matter their claim, the exact opposite of the God Christians and Jews worship.

[Publius6961]

BUMP!

[hubno]

I knew this would happen.It was the same way in Korea & Vietnam when we turned prisoners over to them.
I am for forgetting the Geneva act when in a combat situation.
We need to give the Iraqi's some duct tape to stop the screaming.

[libbybelle]

So what if there are duplicate articles posted - please post whatever you wish - yours was the first I've seen. If you hadn't posted I would have missed it. Thanks.

[HamiltonJay]

"The Americans were better than the Iraqis. They treated us better," said Khalid Alaani, who was held on suspicion of involvement in Sunni terrorism.

Wow.. .there's a shocker NOT.....

There's a reason Western Civilization and not Arabic Culture or Islamic Theocracy dominates the world.... and as much as the Commies and America haters like to think otherwise, its because it is a better system... Period.

[Prysson]

I cant wait until all of the media outlets do entire news segments on how horrible this is compaired to what they endured under American stewardship.

still waiting...
still waiting...

[epow]

Their Allah is the 180 of our Lord, that would make the God they worship, no matter their claim, the exact opposite of the God Christians and Jews worship.

As time goes by I am becoming more and more convinced of my theory that Allah is actually Satan by another name.

[Senator Goldwater]

Some of the small number of prisoners who remained in the jail after the Americans left said they had pleaded to go with their departing captors, rather than be left in the hands of Iraqi guards.

Ted Kennedy should have to laminate this and carry it around with him, along with this prized color glossies of people with underwear on their heads.

[HEY4QDEMS]

This is just another case of the Democrats not being carful what they wish for.

The NYT, LAT, Globe, etc, all ran their hit pieces how the US forces should turn Abu Ghraib over to the Iraqis. I'll be waiting with baited breath for their followup columns.

[DesScorp]

I have absolutely no problem with mass hanging of terrorists.

[beezdotcom]

So what if there are duplicate articles posted - please post whatever you wish -

Really? Oh, goody! I'll get started.

[HEY4QDEMS]

There is nothing wrong with your post. Dups are allowed if they are posted on a different day.

The three previous threads are all from yesterday so yours is well within the rules.

[jan in Colorado]

Don't stop posting! This is the first time I saw the story and I'm glad YOU posted it!

Thanks for the ping, Former Dodger.

[Wil H]

Or they are using Hillary Clinton's panties.

hillary doesn't wear panties, they interfere with her grip on her broomstick...

[The South Texan]

Somebody should tell Teddy Kenedy the prison has been taken over by new management.

[jan in Colorado]

"The Americans were better than the Iraqis. They treated us better," said Khalid Alaani, who was held on suspicion of involvement in Sunni terrorism.

I'm sure the New York Times will be all over this story!

[Piquaboy]

Send in the ACLU, then don't let them back into the US.

[texan75010]

The left seems to think this is a false story....that the prison is empty and that this news report was written by Rove. Still others say that the US did a better job torturing and muted the screams.

They would still rather think the impossible rather than face the truth of this story. I really hope I never become so blind to the truth that when reality points to the sky being blue, I still see it as plaid and insist that there is a conspiracy to cover that up.

Never have I seen people so blinded by their own hatred that they abandon all morals and cling to anything negative, even when they know its false. Even when, in any other area of their life they would clearly know it to be false, this is their one blind spot.

They attribute such incredible powers to Rove and the President, almost super human powers. It is hard to see how they could overcome such an enemy in their own minds.

They see this enemy having control over nature and the minds of millions. In order to actually believe what they believe, you would have to be convinced that some kind of massive world wide conspiracy occurs every day, all orchestrated to make their life miserable.

So it is not the fact that they dropped out of high school and live in their parent's basement that keeps them from having success in life, it is the world wide plot to ensure that they never get that promotion to fry cook at Burger King. That is what the real motive of all of Karl Rove's actions are, to keep them down.

Just amazing how self centered their attitude is. No wonder they are all on so many meds...

[Dustbunny]

Maybe the dog collars are too tight.

[sheik yerbouty]

Plant them like onions..