I'm sorry, I think Jordan is standing next to Donnie!
"The affect of the changes is to deflect specific blame. It ends with actor Donnie Wahlberg, head of the CIA team in Afghanistan, saying, "Are there no men in Washington?" "
THIS IS DEAD WRONG.
The character who made the comment was the Afghani (Pakistani?) standing next to Wahlberg.
The Northern Alliance leader Ahmed Shah Massoud
That was the leader of Northern Alliance "Massood" who said "are there any men in Washington or are they all cowards"?
He also added ...
"Are they all cowards."
I'm MORE than satisfied with the truth of this movie.. Looks like the cuts weren't much at all. The timing of the "I did not have sex...." scene is all that was needed.
No matter what was edited out of this, I believe the message is perfectly clear and whatever minor adjustments were or weren't made are trivia given some passage of time. In many ways, we should realize that the toning-down of direct personal blame against the Clinton-Albright-Berger troika will allow folks who watch this the opportunity to come up with their OWN conclusions. And that, as we say in sales, is usually a more powerful motivator.
The message (to me) is succinct: On WHOMEVER's watch it was back then; Nobody (other than a very few John O'Neill types) was taking it (the terrorist threat) seriously. Nobody put this scourge above their careers. Klinton: his career and legacy were more important. Berger and Albright, same story. These were the indecisive idiots who got played by their own PC mindset.
If that miserable stuck-up b**ch Madame Maddy gave away an OBL attack plan to the Pakis, so be it. It was the right thing to do. It was "our only choice". It might have been construed as..."
If Berger the thief couldn't muster the conscience to kill a few tribal women & children to take out OBL, it was the right thing to do. It was "our only choice".
For my money, these two were quite adequately portrayed as putzette and putz.
As portrayed, Tenet was hawkish on taking out Bin Laden and obstructed at every turn by Albright and Berger. I don't know if that's accurate or inaccurate.
There was, however, a fairly clear hierarchy of hawkishness portrayed, which I think was pretty darn accurate according to everything I've read. And starting at the top, with that embarassment of a CIC in charge, a ton of damage was done by PC thinking and worrying about the rights of fanatical, vicious killers. Regardless of who is or was at fault, if that is the lesson learned, I think part I was pretty damn good.
Correct. I caught that too. Walhberg just hangs his head in embarrasment.
He was the afghan leader massoud who was later assinated by bin laden.
I'm sorry, I think Jordan is standing next to Donnie!
Northern Alliance leader made the statement
Re #4, of course you are right. The Northern Alliance commander asked if we had any "men" left in Washington. This is the question from our allies, and also gives heart to our enemies who belive our leaders lack the guts to defend our way of life.
LOL! I noticed the same thing myself. When I read the AP report this morning I figured that maybe my memory was faulty because I was a bit tired last night. Now it turns out I was right and the AP was WRONG. Will Drudge highlight this GLARING AP error?
It was said twice. Once a CIA agent said it, the next time the Northern Alliance leader said it. He said "ARe there any men left in Washington, or just cowards."
You are correct. something to the effect:are there no men in washington? or only cowards? Im sure that will leave a mark.
"The character who made the comment was the Afghani (Pakistani?) standing next to Wahlberg.
Northern Kurd. Ahmed Shah Massoud. He's a key player.