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To: mware

I'm kind of curious if there are any other movies Clinton felt that needed censoring.

When I watched Blackhawk Down I felt there was a lot missing regarding white house input. In my opinion it portrayed the military as undertaking operations pretty much in a vacuum and I know it just doesn't happen that way.


46 posted on 09/10/2006 10:26:08 AM PDT by cripplecreek (If stupidity got us into this mess, then why can't it get us out?)
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To: cripplecreek
When I watched Blackhawk Down I felt there was a lot missing regarding white house input.

I guess you were not aware that the original end of that film had an 8-minute segment in which Ridley Scott lays out how the Clinton Admin put them in that situation, provided inferior weaponry, and refused requests to provide additional support.

The Clintons complained and it was cut entirely.

158 posted on 09/10/2006 3:15:44 PM PDT by montag813
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To: cripplecreek

Your post brought to mind something I was just researching the other day about the Spanish-American War and the Philippines. Most folks probably know this but in case not, here it is.

Excerpt: http://www.sparknotes.com/history/american/spanishamerican/section5.rhtml

Based partially on his understanding of the leading military theorists of the time, and partially on his desire to see a wider conflict against Spain, [Assistant Secretary of the Navy Theodore] Roosevelt wanted more than just a war in Cuba. For that reason, one weekend while his boss John D. Long was away, Roosevelt used his authority as Assistant Secretary of the Navy to cable Commodore George Dewey, the officer in control of the US Asiatic Squadron then docked at Hong Kong harbor, with orders that if the US and Spain went to go to war, Dewey was to immediately attack the Spanish fleet at Manila, the capital of the Philippines. Roosevelt gave these orders without Long's knowledge (and probably against Long's will) on February 25, 1898. Dewey figured something was fishy about these strange orders, and so double-checked the orders with McKinley. Strangely, McKinley, who had previously been agonizing over whether to go with war with Spain over Cuba, approved the surprise attack against the Spanish in the Philippines."

Not that I disagree with your post; I don't, but I thought this an interesting event in our history of war.


319 posted on 09/10/2006 4:33:28 PM PDT by GretchenM (What does it profit a man to gain the whole world and lose his soul? Please meet my friend, Jesus.)
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To: cripplecreek; snugs; onyx; STARWISE; Miss Marple; Howlin; ohioWfan; MJY1288; Wolfstar; rintense; ...

I'm thinking that somewhere in the White House, ol' 43 is having a quiet smile over the truth willing out. For that matter, I imagine Bar and Poppy are probably jubilant.


344 posted on 09/10/2006 4:37:41 PM PDT by GretchenM (What does it profit a man to gain the whole world and lose his soul? Please meet my friend, Jesus.)
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